Secret Service locks Kevin Walsh in Mental Hospital : AZ IMC

Subject: A Set Up In The Making
From: LL nicol <llnicol@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 25 2004 11:09:18 AM -0700 (PDT)

I have received information about an acquaintance that
many of you are familiar with. Most, I know, are less
than ambivalent about how you feel about this person.
That being said, I just want to remind every one that
it was me recently, it is him now, who will be next?

On Monday the 21st of this month, while at work in
Tempe, Kevin Walsh was tackled by a specially armed
unit of the Mesa Police Department. This was done on
the orders of the Secret Service and specifically an
agent by the name of Ray La beau. Kevin was not placed
officially under arrest, instead, he was transported
to Maricopa medical center where a psychiatrist was
waiting, and immediately designated him a danger to
himself and others. He was placed on forced medication
and transported to Mesa where he is currently being
held at the Desert Vista Campus of the Maricopa
Medical Center at 570 Brown Road. The number there is
480-344-2193. Kevin can be reached at this number. He
says he is being treated considerately, but he is not
free to leave. Also, his computer has been subpoenaed
by the SS. Any one who Kevin may have corresponded
with via e-mail may be getting a visit or a call from
the SS.
I did not support the Davidians in Waco, nor Randy
Weaver in Ruby Ridge, but I did condemn the murderous
acts of our government against those people. I do not
support Kevin's political or social views, but I see
that this is yet another attempt by the federal goon
squads to silence another vocal critic of the Bush
administration and the Fascist direction of our police
state. I am reminded of what Reverend Neumuller said:
"First they came for the Communist, and I did nothing,
for I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did nothing, for I
was not A Jew...............Then they came for me, and
there was no one left to do anything."
I know that is a paraphrase, but I think it gets the
point across.

Peace and solidarity in this unbelievable struggle my
friends,

Laro

This is a pretty sketchy report. Does anyone have any additional details? Unfortunately for Kevin, there's probably enough loony-sounding, aryan-loving, jew-hating stuff in his computer to keep him locked away for a long time...

Racists of any stripe are an abhorance. I have my prejudices, but I don't fill mine or anyone's computers with 'em. However, I wish none of anyone's people to be tackled and taken, just for being a freak. Plz provide more documentation, including background on this fellow so kept. thnx, MS

What did he do to attract the attention of the SS? I don't think being a wingnut is sufficient grounds for being placed in a mental institution. Otherwise, half of Arizona would be locked away by now.

Worth noting also, are Kevin Wlash's politics, he is a racist, who was a member of the Communist Party until he was booted out for a being a racist, his politics are nationalist and maoist, and he allies himself with anyone or cause he perceives to be anti- jewish. Also a buddy of folks in the racist, fascist group, the National Alliance.

Here's the article from the Tribune...
Valley man held after threat to president
By Bryon Wells, Tribune
A Phoenix man has been involuntarily committed to a Mesa psychiatric hospital at the direction of a U.S. Secret Service agent who said the man threatened the life of President Bush.
Phoenix S.W.A.T. team members tracked Kevin J. Walsh, 37, to Quadrangles Village apartments, 1255 E. University Drive, Tempe, where he was working as a groundskeeper June 21, according to police records. They approached him with weapons drawn and ordered him to the ground.

Walsh reached for a semiautomatic pistol in a shoulder holster and was yelling, "Go ahead and please kill me" and "kill me, kill me," reports stated.

The officers subdued Walsh and took him to Desert Vista Behavioral Health Center, 570 W. Brown Road, where he remained Sunday.

In a telephone interview, Walsh said he has never made a threat against the president, and that he believes he was unlawfully detained by what he called an "ambush" by the police and Secret Service.

"I was arrested and held illegally," Walsh said. "They have way too much power to be doing this stuff."

Walsh said he believes government interest in him stems from his political involvement in posting news and other information on the Internet in support of the "Iraqi resistance."

Walsh also said he believes somebody reported him to the Secret Service after hearing him making comments wishing harm to Bush during a conversation with a Bush campaign worker.

"I said Bush was terrible and deserved to be killed, but I never said I would do it," Walsh said.

There was no other information about the threat in police records. Bush has made frequent stops to the Valley during his presidency, and is scheduled to appear at an October presidential debate at Gammage Auditorium at Arizona State University.

Chuck Woolford, a spokesman for the Secret Service, declined to comment, saying the agency never confirms or denies ongoing investigations.

"I’m not going to comment on anything about Kevin Walsh," he said.

Phoenix police records indicate that Secret Service special agent Ray Lebeau requested help from Phoenix police to look for Walsh and that he was in need of psychiatric evaluation. Lebeau also told the officers that Walsh made an unspecified threat on the president.

In two e-mail messages sent to the Tribune earlier this month, Walsh wrote that a Secret Service agent had been calling his home in Phoenix, trying to visit him there and calling family members asking to talk to him.

Walsh said he was refusing to talk to the agent, and that he believed the agent was harassing him.

As a result of his detention, Walsh said he is being forced to take behavioral drugs and submit to psychiatric evaluation.

Walsh said that a hearing is scheduled for Thursday at the hospital, where officials will determine whether he is a danger to himself or others because of a thought disorder, and whether he should be confined for more treatment. If committed, Walsh said he could be confined for up to 180 days at the hospital and required to submit to up to a year of outpatient treatment.

Walsh said he was reaching for the gun to shoot himself, and that he resisted the officers because he feared the police and Secret Service would mistreat him in custody.

Phoenix police have recommended that Walsh be charged with three counts of aggravated assault, saying that he attempted to draw his weapon and shoot the officers.

http://www.aztrib.com/index.php?sty=23880

first i dont agree with any of kevins racists
views. but even if the guy is a creep its still
wrong for the government to f*ck him over
and i think we should protest his arrest and
detention for that reason. if the feds can
get away with locking kevin in mental
hospital with out any charges simply by
saing he is a dangerous person they can
lock up you or me next the same way
by claiming we are dangerous people.

to get more information on this i think we
should file some freedom of information
requests with these people

a) the phoenix police. the reporter in the
tribune article seems to have seen the paper
work the secret service gave to the
phoenix police asking them to follow
and spy on kevin walsh, and in the
end detain him so he could be placed
in a mental instution against his
will.

it would be nice to get a copy of this
paper work to see what really was going
going on between the phoenix police and
the secret service.

it would also spill the beans on what the
secretitive no comment secret service is
doing.

the arizona law on this is A.R.S. 39-121
which i included what i thought was
important at the end of this post. i have
put the URL to the full law so you can
view everything

b) get a copy of the records about kevin
walshes detention from the
maricopa county medical center where
kevin is detained at.

i beleive its at:

Desert Vista Campus
Maricopa Medical Center
570 Brown Road
Mesa, Arizona
480-344-2193

these records should show just what
the phoenix police and secret service
are accusing kevin walsh of.

i dont know if medical records are "public
records" but i suspect kevin will consent
to letting us view the records since he
is the person the government is f*cking
over.

c) kevin is having some kind of hearing today.
we should also get the public records from
that hearing.

d) use the federal freedom of information act
to get a copy of the secret services records
on this incident. i have never done a
federal freedom information request so i
dont know what it involves.

these are the arizona public records laws.
they are at:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/39/title39.htm

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http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/39/00121.htm

39-121. Inspection of public records

Public records and other matters in the custody of any officer shall be open to inspection by any person at all times during office hours.

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/39/00121-01.htm

39-121.01. Definitions; copies; printouts or photographs of public records; examination by mail

A. In this article, unless the context otherwise requires:

1. "Officer" means any person elected or appointed to hold any elective or appointive office of any public body and any chief administrative officer, head, director, superintendent or chairman of any public body.

2. "Public body" means the state, any county, city, town, school district, political subdivision or tax-supported district in the state, any branch, department, board, bureau, commission, council or committee of the foregoing, and any public organization or agency, supported in whole or in part by monies from the state or any political subdivision of the state, or expending monies provided by the state or any political subdivision of the state.

B. All officers and public bodies shall maintain all records, including records as defined in section 41-1350, reasonably necessary or appropriate to maintain an accurate knowledge of their official activities and of any of their activities which are supported by monies from the state or any political subdivision of the state.

C. Each public body shall be responsible for the preservation, maintenance and care of that body's public records and each officer shall be responsible for the preservation, maintenance and care of that officer's public records. It shall be the duty of each such body to carefully secure, protect and preserve public records from deterioration, mutilation, loss or destruction, unless disposed of pursuant to sections 41-1347 and 41-1351.

D. Subject to section 39-121.03:

1. Any person may request to examine or be furnished copies, printouts or photographs of any public record during regular office hours or may request that the custodian mail a copy of any public record not otherwise available on the public body's web site to the requesting person. The custodian may require any person requesting that the custodian mail a copy of any public record to pay in advance for any copying and postage charges. The custodian of such records shall promptly furnish such copies, printouts or photographs and may charge a fee if the facilities are available, except that public records for purposes listed in section 39-122 shall be furnished without charge.

2. If the custodian of a public record does not have facilities for making copies, printouts or photographs of a public record which a person has a right to inspect, such person shall be granted access to the public record for the purpose of making copies, printouts or photographs. The copies, printouts or photographs shall be made while the public record is in the possession, custody and control of the custodian of the public record and shall be subject to the supervision of such custodian.

E. Access to a public record is deemed denied if a custodian fails to promptly respond to a request for production of a public record.

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/39/00121-02.htm

39-121.02. Action upon denial of access; expenses and attorney fees; damages

A. Any person who has requested to examine or copy public records pursuant to the provisions of this article, and who has been denied access to or the right to copy such records, may appeal the denial through a special action in the superior court, pursuant to the rules of procedure for special actions against the officer or public body.

B. If the court determines that a person was wrongfully denied access to or the right to copy a public record and if the court finds that the custodian of such public record acted in bad faith, or in an arbitrary or capricious manner, the superior court may award to the petitioner legal costs, including reasonable attorney fees, as determined by the court.

C. Any person who is wrongfully denied access to public records pursuant to the provisions of this article shall have a cause of action against the officer or public body for any damages resulting therefrom.

this is one of the few cases where the goverment
doesnt have to give out public records and it
applys only to a) the addresses and phone numbers
of cops, b) photos of cops working undercover

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/39/00123.htm

39-123. Information identifying a peace officer, justice, judge, commissioner, public defender or prosecutor; confidentiality; definitions

A. Nothing in this chapter requires disclosure from a personnel file by a law enforcement agency or employing state or local governmental entity of the home address or home telephone number of a peace officer as defined in section 13-105, a justice, a judge, a commissioner, a public defender or a prosecutor. This exemption also applies to a photograph of a peace officer who is serving in an undercover capacity or who is scheduled to serve in an undercover capacity within sixty days.

B. The agency or governmental entity may release the information in subsection A of this section only if either:

1. The person consents in writing to the release.

2. The custodian of records of the agency or governmental entity determines that release of the information does not create a reasonable risk of physical injury to the person or the person's immediate family or damage to the property of the person or the person's immediate family.

C. This section does not apply to a certified peace officer who is no longer employed as a peace officer by a state or local government entity.

D. For the purposes of this section:

1. "Commissioner" means a commissioner of the superior court.

2. "Judge" means a judge of the United States district court, the United States court of appeals, the United States magistrate court, the United States bankruptcy court, the Arizona court of appeals, the superior court or a municipal court.

3. "Justice" means a justice of the United States or Arizona supreme court or a justice of the peace.

4. "Prosecutor" means a county attorney, a municipal prosecutor, the attorney general or a United States attorney and includes an assistant or deputy United States attorney, county attorney, municipal prosecutor or attorney general.

5. "Public defender" means a federal public defender, county public defender, county legal defender or county contract indigent defense counsel and includes an assistant or deputy federal public defender, county public defender or county legal defender.

what did kevin walsh do? probably insult bush?

it all started when the walsh family got a call
from a telephone solicitor
with the republican party who called
kevins home and asked the walsh family
to support bush for another 4 more
years of war.

kevin told the republican phone solicitor
in his own words something to the effect
that he though president bush stunk and
should not be re-elected.

this trivial issue of keving telling
the phone solictor that bush stunk caused
the phone solicitor to report kevin walsh
to the secrect service.

i was told that the secret service then
asked the phoenix police to follow kevin
around for several days and finally
detained him on monday june 21 and
placed him in a mental institution.

so i guess kevin walsh crime was insulting
president bush.

im sure that if kevin walsh had actually
committed any real crimes such as threating
the president the secret service would have
him arrested and he would be in the
maricopa county jail charged with some
federal crime instead of being in
the county mental hospital under the
claim he might be a danger to himself.

i suspect the reason they have kevin jailed
in a mental hospital is because its an
easy way for them to take away his gun
with out charging him with any crimes.
ie: your crazy so you can carry a gun
any more.

Nobody, where did you get your info about Kevin and the phone call? Having encountered Kevin, I can easily imagine he said something to the phone solicitor that sounded a little more wacked-out than what you report. Nonetheless, if his rights have been violated, they should be protected.

Thanks for posting all the relevant FOIA info, although I have a feeling that national/homeland security/patriot act statutes may take precedence...

>Nobody, where did you get your info about
>Kevin and the phone call?

i called kevin at the hospital. i have know kevin
for maybe 5 years. but even though i know
him i dont agree with his racist views.

>Having encountered Kevin, I can easily imagine
>he said something to the phone solicitor that
>sounded a little more wacked-out than what
>you report.

kevin didnt tell me the exact words
he told the guy.

i am just repeating what kevin told me.
kevin has not lied to me in the past.
and i dont think he is lying about this.

Well, Kevin was directly quoted by the Trib reporter as saying that he told the Repub person that Bush should be killed, although he didn't offer to do it himself. Not too smart, in my opinion.

Plus, Kevin's always seemed driven to prove that he's an *intelligent* racist anti-semitic neo-nazi kind of guy, so I'm sure he's not helped himself at all since being locked up. He just can't not spew his crapola to whoever's listening...

i talked to someone who went to kevins hearing
yesterday. he said it wa pretty much a kangaroo
court. im repeating here what he told me.

secret service special agent Ray La beau said
that kevin was crazy and should be locked up.

two shrinks also said that kevin was crazy and
should be locked up.

the cops admitted that they had their guns draw when they approched kevin to arrest him. they
also said that kevin drew his gun when the cops
approached him.

im not sure if there was a screw up in that no arrest
warrent was issued for kevin. agent ray la buea said that he was not aware that an arrest warrent
was required to detain kevin. i dont know if this means that an arrest warrent was needed to arrest
kevin, but was not issued.

no evidence was presented on kevin committing
any crimes involving threating the president.

kevin did have some type of counsel to represent
him. kevins counsel said something to the effect
that kevins civil rights were being violated.

but that didnt matter. the judge ordered that
kevin be locked up in the mental hospital for up
to 180 days (6 months ) at the descrition of the
people that run the mental hospital.

kevin can be contacted at:

480-344-2193

or visited at:

Desert Vista Campus
Maricopa Medical Center
570 Brown Road
Mesa, Arizona

Thanks for the update about Kevin's hearing. I'm afraid that Kevin probably *is* crazy -- pulling a gun on the cops is a case in point. However, if his civil rights have been violated, then he definitely needs heavier help than a public defender can provide. Has the ACLU been contacted?

This article is an excellent example of how slant in the media can present a situation exactly as it is not. Far greater (violent) reasons that have NOTHING to do with the government in any way shape or form, but of protecting the public from an individual who is suffering from a serious mental illness led this individual to the psychiatric hospital. So many times when we see events such as the Oklahoma City Bombing, the Waco burning, the Unabomber killings, or Joe Disgruntled employee shootings, people asked "Why didn't anyone do anything BEFORE this happened?! Certaininly there were signs!" and this is an example of exactly that. I am a Kerry contributor and despise Bush and plan to see Fahrneheit for a 2nd time, so I can assure you that my view is an objective one, unlike the one presented in this article. Perhaps if the writer had done his research and learned of those other reasons that led his friend to the hospital, the readers would have had an objective story through which they could reach their own conclusions.

" I am a Kerry contributor and despise Bush and plan to see Fahrneheit for a 2nd time, so I can assure you that my view is an objective one"

Yeah, it doesn't get more "objective" than that. Glad to see that you're not an ideologue....HAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm not one sided, not at all.

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(3.) Besides, who it was that wrote something is irrelevant. Only content counts. If it’s true, it doesn’t matter who says it, or why. The truth is the truth, period.

(4.) Later, when you encounter something with my name on it, posted somewhere else on the internet, consider that it may be a forgery. If it is consistent with what you know I have actually written, then I wrote it. If it is not consistent, then it’s a forgery. If you can’t tell the difference, you’re too stupid to understand what I’m saying, anyway, so don’t waste time trying.

"my writing does not need proof"
by debate coach Thursday July 08, 2004 at 03:46 AM

Nazi supporters of Palestinian terrorists *have* to lie and forge because there *is* no honest defense of ethnic cleansing.

But remember, if only the content counts, and if it's true, and if it doesn't matter who says it or why, then is it really a forgery? Educate yourself. Start today.

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