3/24 Phoenix Immigration March Report : AZ IMC

As I turned off the 202 and north onto Highway 51 I couldn’t help but notice the amount of people who were parking close to a mile away from the start of Friday’s march. I didn’t know it at the time, but this was just the beginning of what turned out to be one of the, if not, largest demonstrations in Phoenix’s history. The magnitude of the march was gradually realized as the march continued, and not fully understood until seeing all the reports later on in the night.

Thousands, estimated at 20,000, came out to protest HR 4437 in a show of solidarity against a bill criminalizing almost anything and anyone involved with ’illegal’ immigration.

The march started at roughly 11 a.m. just south of 24th St. and Oak St. with the guardianship of Phoenix Police. Little did the police, organizers, marchers, and reporters, including myself, realize that history was being made.

The crowd, of advocates for immigration reform and opponents of HR 4437, was comprised of people of all ages and skin color. Along the way marchers were cheered on by hundreds of workers along 24th St. One couldn’t help but feel even more empowered after passing individuals such as a man, stricken to a wheelchair, who was playing the bongos and trombone.

The crowd, which started out five lanes wide, made its way three miles north up 24th St. to Camelback before turning back around towards McDowell. Near the intersection of 24th St. and Camelback construction workers stopped working to show solidarity in turn firing up the crowd some 150 feet below them. Some of these workers, in a building on 24th St. just south of Camelback, dropped a sign reading ‘Si Se Puede’ or ‘Yes We Can,’ and chanted on the revved up crowd before and after the turn. One could cut the energy in the air with a knife.

After walking south back down 24th St., after the u-turn, I couldn’t believe the amount of people who were still marching north. At first I thought the beginning of the march decided to loop around, but soon came to realize just what was being accomplished in a Republican dominated anti-immigrant state. Hopefully the people of Phoenix have finally awoken our representatives as to just how important these bills are to their and our future.

For more photos of the march, go to: https://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/38981.php

Photo taken along 24th St. heading north

I can understand a person wanting to better their life by going to another country. There are steps to doing this. I, as a United States citizen, could not immigrate illegally into another country and demand rights while waving an American flag. I understand pride in one's country. I served in the U.S. army because of pride. I believe a mixed message is sent when a person is demanding rights in one country while waving the flag of another country. It feels like an occupation. Another thought I have centers around population. China has already limited the number of children couples can have. When our resources are depleted and possibly limits are placed upon us. Will I remember all of the immigrants that came here illegally to impact my personal freedoms. If our country is so desirable to live in then there should be some process one has to work through to earn their way into the U.S. and not just cross a border. Granted the crossing is at times dangerous and strenuous, it is a quick solution in comparison to a process that could take months or years. I do not care to add a group of people flying mexican flags instead of american flags to the country's social system. Maybe my opinion would change if I saw a group carrying american flags and demonstrating a pride in america. Just my thoughts.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/04/152750.php

I have told you this and been right – like 50 times – in the last 5 years – but I know that most yuo won’t listen, IMC will censor this or even if you listen THAT you are so programmed by amerika – by middle clasS– ideas that these words could never help you – thank your parents – thank your Black and latino leaders – and the “ALTERNATIVERS” AND imc FOR MAKING SURE YOU KNOW NOTHING (ABOUT THE WORLD, ABOUT POOR LATIN AM,ERICANS – ABOUT ECONOMICS OR WORLD STRATEGIES ) --

ANYWAY AS HEARD ON Talk of the Nation today – black leaders AND ACTIVISTS HOLD BACK FROM JOINING IN THE ANTI-RIGHT WING IMMIGRATION LAWS protests Because they don’t have a clue about struggle or capitalism – or because they ARE CAPITASLISTS! ...

None of what almost anyone will tell you about this has anything to do with reality – all the leaders are totally fkkked!

IN FACT – these LA and other protest (Tucson, AZ has seen its largest protest since the 70s!)

These protests in the way they are going AXTUALLY HELP BUSH And the right wing – YOU ARE MAKING SURE THAT THEy DO WELL IN THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS – AND EVEN if you Vote – You will help the capitalists – because the DEMOCRATS ARE WORSE THAN THE REPUBLICANS !!!!!! – NO SHIT !

So wghat are you doing ??? – What should you be doing – well I could tell you a whole lot of nasty things to do – but then I would be censored and get to say nothing to you – Freedom of the Press – Ha ha HA --

So I will just say that the only – and highly unli9kely – positive thing that could come out of these protests is for the youth to realize how much what their elders , leaders, activists and IMC tells them is pure unadulterated BS!

The only thing possible is that t eh youth grasp that Hugo Chavez and the Iraqi insurgents are their models – fight Amerika – fight the whole fascist project – and then at least you will be on the right side - Good Luck – have a happy suicidal death – I will honor you….

Well, the people who are insisting on importing illegal aliens far faster than our society can abosorb them, whether to swell the ranks of their voters (Democrats) or to provide cheap labor for their industries, have been asking for a confrontation and now they have it.

Sure, the radicals putting on these highly orchestrated mob demonstrations have gotten more sophisticated lately, and have now turned to waving the American flag rather than burning it, as they did not so long ago, but they still chant the rhetoric of the revolutionary Chicano, La Raza, Aztlan movement.
So don't be under any doubt where their sympathies and objectives lie.

I thought my son ws being follish to walk into these demonstrations, which surely would have resulted in violent attacks from the Left Wingers, who seem to feel they have a monopoly on the right to demonstrate and attack this country. But he chose to do so, and I must say, he showed some commendable ingenuity when he told that crowd, a mixture of more or less innocent Mexicans and the Liberal agitators who are leading them, that instead of trying to force their way into the United States in defiance of our laws, they should return to Mexico where they have been exploited mercilessly for generations.

Everone with a lick of sense knows that the Zapatistists were cheated out of the rights they won over 80 years ago, and that the Mexical oligarchy has been shoving them from Chiapas northward in hopes of getting rid of their dissidents while still retaiing the stream of wealth being returned to Mexico by their people working in the US.

And so I say, Good Luck to you, my son. I just hope the bastards don't kill you. But they'll harass you mercilessly until the end of your days, because they don't want people, not even their own people, to know the truth. They just want victory over the Anglos who worked hard and turned that worthless desert we bought from Mexico in the 1840s and '50s with solid money, and if you bother to read their literature, you will see that they don't make any bones about it.

The Mexicans never did hold these territories, not at any tiime in history. Their claims are just as spurious as their demands. If you want to know what horrible savages their ancestors were when the Spanish conquered Mexico, just read Bernal Diaz' The Conquest of New Spain. He was there, every foot of the way. It will make your blood curdle to read his eye-witnessed stories of bloody sacrifices and open cannibalism.

Join the Howard Beale Memorial Society. Denounce the Hypocrisies of our Times. Fight back. We're Mad as Hell and We Aren't Going to Take it Anymore.

Lew Warden

If you cannot see the beauty in the world, you must be very ugly inside. I hope you can begin to appreciate life and to not take your affluent lifestyle for granted; everything you have could be gone at any time. Enjoy it while you can.

I agree with you that if Mexico’s economy could offer livable wages, not so many people would attempt to cross the border illegally. Perhaps economic policies of Mexico make it difficult for economic expansion, but that has a lot to do with U.S. and international bank policies as well. Perhaps you should do a little research on the economy of Mexico and tell me whether it is capable of sustaining the population of Mexico. The economic infrastructure needs to be developed first, which is much easier said than done.

Do expect them to just stay and starve? Wake up- you have a better life than almost everyone else on Earth. And the immigrating Mexicans are only attempting to do what our ancestors did: work for a better life for themselves and their children. Other people have desires too.

Furthermore, what do you mean by the “hard work of the Anglos”? - Seizure of occupied lands and mass genocides??? Or just exploitation of the environment? Deforestation; mine tailings; slaughtered buffalo, wolves, and bears; polluted rivers and desertification; etc.etc.etc. What are you so proud of??????

I think you are just scared that our un-sustainable way of living is doomed. I hope your son realizes what it will take to survive in the future because the skills of contemporary society will not keep him alive when our consumptive-growth based system fails.

We are not as radical as you think, and we think a hell of a lot more than you care to know...

Empires always fail…

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