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Marcos revolutionizes Indigenous rights in Northern Mexico
by marco : for brenda norrell Thursday, Oct. 26, 2006 at 10:12 AM

Indigenous from northern Mexico welcomed Subcomandante Marcos as a hero as he listened to O'odham, Mayo, Navajo and others describe the oppression by the governments of the United States and Mexico, who have targeted Indian lands for harzardous waste dump, a "Berlin" style wall and genocide. Marcos continues on the Other Campaign through Indian communities in northern Mexico. (Photo by Brenda Norrell/Tohono O'odham Mike Flores speaks as Marcos listens in Magdalena, Sonora) Marcos Revolutionizes Indigenous Rights in Northern Mexico a report by Brenda Norrell UN Observer and International Report http://www.unobserver.com

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Navajo and other Indigenous told of the oppression that threatens their survival.

During the northern Indian borderlands tour of the Other Campaign, Marcos listened as Tohono O’odham opposed encroachment on their lands in Mexico, the Bush administration’s planned border wall which is threatening the survival of their ceremonies and a proposed hazardous waste dump and the cancer it would bring.

O’odham in Mexico Lt. Gov. Jose Garcia, among the event organizers, said Indigenous People are in need of good leaders and need to follow the example of the Zapatistas.

“Instead of fighting with bullets, they are fighting with words”, Garcia told the listening gathering of more than 500 people outdoors at the Rancho el Penasco on Oct. 21.

Mayo Governor Victoriano Huichileme told of the struggle of his people in Sinoloa on the western coast, of their desperate need for jobs, education and homes.

O’odham in Mexico told Marcos of the threat they now face, as the government of Mexico plans a hazardous dump near their ceremonial site at Quitovac, less than 40 miles south of the international border.

Brenda Lee, O’odham from Quitovac, Mexico, said the people living closest to the planned hazardous waste dump were never informed of the dump so they could not speak out against it.

“We believe we are of nature and want to continue to live a natural life. We do not want this contamination”, Lee told Marcos at the gathering.

Mike Flores, Tohono O’odham and member of the International Indian Treaty Council, said the Treaty Council is an arm of the American Indian Movement and provides Indian people with the opportunity to take their issues to the United Nations.

Flores, coordinator of the recent Border Summit of the Americas in the U.S., said O’odham are opposed to the border wall and militarization of Tohono O’odham tribal land along the U.S./Mexico border.

With the rampant spread of Border Patrol agents and National Guardsmen on tribal land in the United States, O’odham rights to practice their religion are being violated by the oppressive military. The border wall would separate the O’odham communities on both sides of the border and be a barrier on their traditional ceremonial route.

Flores said American Indians at the northern and southern borders of the United States are both targeted by the Bush administration. In the north, Mohawks and other tribes are battling threats to their territories and treaties. The Bush administration is attempting to nullify the Jay Treaty, which recognizes the rights of First Nations’ passage and commerce at the northern border.

“George Bush wants to nullify the Jay Treaty, single-handedly, and we can’t let that happen”, said Flores, tribal councilman for Gu-Vo District of the Tohono O’odham Nation in Arizona.

Flores urged Indigenous People to purge their minds of colonized thinking, which is not the way of thought of Indigenous Peoples.

Among those traveling with Marcos was a survivor of the brutal police violence at San Salvador Atenco, where police attacked and beat Zapatistas and townspeople. One 14-year-old girl was killed. Amnesty International recently released a report on the rape and large-scale sexual assault of the women carried out by the Mexican police while the women were in custody.

Marcos, now known as Delegate Zero on his listening tour through Mexico, gathered with northern tribes at the Rancho el Penasco, an ecotourism ranch that promotes biodiversity. During the listening session, presentations and translations were offered in Spanish, O’odham and English.

Mayos from Sinoloa on the western coast told Marcos that they have little opportunity to receive an education in Mexico, while Navajo from the United States called for a halt to the corporate machinations that are causing death for Indigenous Peoples.

O’odham Lt. Gov. Jose Garcia said, “This gathering brought our people together in unity and gave us the chance for ours voices to be heard.”

Garcia said the underlying message of all the Indigenous present was that the government of Mexico has not honored the voices, or recognized the existence and rights of the Indian people of Mexico.

Garcia, who has traveled numerous times to Chiapas since the Zapatistas’ movement for Indigenous rights began, said Mexico never adopted the San Andres Accords and watered down the Indigenous Rights Bill of Rights in Mexico’s Congress. He said both reveal that Mexico continues to ignore and repress Indigenous Peoples

Michelle Cook, Navajo, said the state and federal governments in the United States are not listening to Indian people. Cook demanded that corporate profiteering cease and the World Trade Organization and World Bank “desist from their activities which kill our people.”

Cook thanked Marcos and the Zapatistas for coming and listening, adding that the Navajos’ own state and federal governments in the United States are not listening.

After listening, Marcos said it was good to be present and listen to the voices of the Indigenous Peoples. Naming the tribes of this region, Marcos reminded those gathered that there are always repercussions for people speaking out with truth.

Louise Benally, Navajo resisting relocation at Big Mountain, Ariz., sent a message to Marcos and the Zapatistas.

“I was hoping to be a part of the on-going events against the border wall and militarization. However, I am unable to attend.

“We are not in support of what is going on with this uncontrollable government; we do not support what is happening at the border. Our hearts are with all of you, we are standing with you in spirit!”

Before the evening of listening, a traditional prayer was led by Salt River Pima. Members of the American Indian Movement, Tohono O’odham, Pima and Hopi/Zia Pueblo from the United States and O’odham from Mexico, provided security at the entrance and organized patrols. After consulting with AIM security, local Mexican police forces agreed to remain outside the indigenous AIM security parameters. Mexican police were surprised with hot coffee before leaving their posts at the highway on Sunday morning.

News reporters and documentary filmmakers poured into the evening listening session from Sweden, Italy, Japan, China and the United States, representing a wide range of media, from Indymedia to the Arizona Daily Star in Tucson, Ariz. and an independent Swedish film crew.

During Marcos’ overnight stay here, O’odham prepared favorite Sonoran foods of red chile stew, the favorite large and thin O’odham tortillas, pinto beans and strong coffee. Tucson restaurant owner Maria Garcia, wife of Jose Garcia and among the event organizers, arrived with huge pots of red chile and beans.

While several hundred supporters arrived with Marcos’ delegation in a large bus and several cars, Indigenous traveled by bus from distant communities, including Mayo from Sinoloa, Yaqui and O’odham from the coast and Tarahumara from Chihuahua.

Crossing the border to attend, hundreds of people arrived from the United States, including human rights groups and EZLN members from Oakland, Calif. Among the large delegations were members of “No More Deaths,” in Tucson, Ariz., which provides water, food and emergency care in the desert in the U.S,. in an effort to prevent migrant deaths, while seeking long term goals of peace at the border.

When Marcos and the delegation left on Sunday morning, ecotourism ranch owner Wenceslao Monrroy said Marcos said he had a good rest here, where sheep and goats often wander through the outdoor crowd.

Already, Monrroy had removed the previous plaque from the door of the private room where Marcos stayed as his guest at the hostel, also known as the Centro Cultural de Biodiversidad del Kiche.

“It will now be the ‘Marcos Room’”, he said of the room decorated in the folk art and carvings distinguishing Mexico for hundreds of years.

Marcos had planned to be here in June, but the attack by police in Atenco in the south delayed the northern Indian borderlands tour until October.

During the weekend here, food and support poured in from the Dry River Collective from Tucson; Cooperativa “Just Coffee,” in Agua Prieta and Sonora; Citizens for Border Solutions in Bisbee, Ariz.; Desarollo de Pueblos Indios Inmigrantes y Nativos in Sonora.

Earlier in the week, while meeting with the Kumiai (Kumeyaay) in Baja California, Marcos announced a meeting to bring together Indigenous Peoples from the north and south continents in the fall of 2007 in northern Mexico.

Marcos arrived at the O’odham gathering on Saturday, immediately after establishing a camp to protect the Cucapa and Kiliwa near Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico. Facing extinction because of the loss of fishing rights, tribal members earlier entered into a “death pact.”

Narco News, providing coverage of the Other Campaign, reports of the new Zapatista camp and encouragement to the people.

“In protest against the forceful dispossession of their lands and the destruction of their culture, the Kiliwas took a death pact. The women have agreed to stop having children, and the Kiliwas will die with this generation. Marcos, however, intends to use the power of the Other Campaign to convince them that they are not alone, and that it is not worth it to die from a death pact when they can die fighting.”

During the last week of October, Marcos plans to meet with Indigenous in Yaqui, Seri, Mayo, Pima, Tarahumara and other communities in northwestern Mexico.

Brenda Norrell
U.N. OBSERVER & International Report

Please also see:

Marcos: The Zapatistas Will Defend the Cucapa and Kiliwa Peoples of Baja California http://www.narconews.com/Issue43/article2205.html

Amnesty International on the rape of the women of Atenco:
http://news.amnesty.org/index/ENGAMR410452006

Ejército Zapatista de Liberación Nacional http://www.ezln.org.mx

Amnesty: U.S. Inspiring Torture and ‘Killing Fields’,
a report by Brenda Norrell
http://www.unobserver.com/index.php?pagina=layout4.php&id=2710&blz=1

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Cucapa of Rio Colorado delta need agua!
by Free Los Rios! Thursday, Oct. 26, 2006 at 9:15 PM

original article aqui;
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/10/24/18323054.php?show_comments=1#18323084

Here's some info about the struggles facing the Cucapa nations on both sides of the US/MEX border after decades of drought from dams and diversions on los rios de Colorado (Colorado River watershed) where industrial agriculture corporations steal rio agua from the Colorado, coercing the drought stricken cucapa to abandon their time tested indigenous traditions of food gathering on the colorado delta and face assimilation (cultural genocide) in the maquiladora sweatshops along the nearby border..

Sacramentan's Report on La Otra Campana en Tijuana
by Dan Bacher

Tuesday Oct 24th, 2006 5:08 PM

Here's my brief, impressionistic report on the meeting with Subcomandante Marcos of the EZLN in Tijuana during the Zapatista's La Otra Campana taking place throughout Mexico:

SubMarcos Asks Adherents in Tijuana to Bring the Walls Down!

by Dan Bacher

The Zapatista Commission meeting in Tijuana was great, with Subcomandante Marcos (Delegado zero) taking notes and listening to representatives of the South Cental LA urban farmer coalition, gay Chicanas and Chicanos, Food Not Bombs, the IWW (Patricia Nuno), homeless coalition organizers, student activists from UCLA and CSU Northridge and immigrant rights representatives. The day before focused on maquiladora workers, mostly women, who are exploited by U.S. companies in northern Mexico. The Brown Berets provided security for Marcos, as well as speaking about counter military recruitment and immigration.

After the hearing on Thursday, Marcos gave a summary of what people had talked about and urged people to take down the walls between each other, as well as the wall being proposed along the border. When Marcos speaks, he is very soft spoken and humble, yet very forceful. His words have a distinctive poetic cadence.

"The Wall is is not just along the border," Marcos said. "The walls are put up against Chicanos, against those who speak in Spanglish, against women, gays, children and elders. The wall reproduces itself in each part of each home, in the street and it is not just erected by those above. We build them ourselves."

Before the commission hearing, "El Sub" as the locals call him, spray painted his revolutionary placaso on the walls of the mulitkulti, a movie theatre on Constitution Avenue. There is no roof on it; I guess it burned down. The day before, he got out of the Zapatista bus and pissed on the border fence!

It was a great gathering of folks on both sides of the border working against their repressive governments. The hearing was followed by a huge public meeting on Avenida Constitucion in front of the multikulti. Don Juan, a Mixtec Indian leader from Oaxaca, talked about the rebellion there and then Marcos gave a great speech, slamming imperialism and corporate globalism and talking about his journey throughout Mexico.

After the big rally, there was a press conference, with only independent and left media invited (I love it - no corporate media allowed!) I was only about 7 feet from him. IndyMedia Tijuana, San Diego and Sacramento were all there, along with Al Giordino of Narco News. I was one of the three "adherents" from Sacramento - the other two were Mario Galvan and Nancy Lehman.

Mexico is ready for revolution. You have the Zapatista liberated zones in Chiapas and 12 guerrilla groups operating now throughout Mexico; the Oaxaca rebellion where the teachers, peasants and workers have taken over all of the radio stations, tv stations and government offices; the battle for human rights in Oventic; and the refusal of the people to accept right winger Calderon's stolen election.

After the press conference, there was a concert with groups from both Mexico and the other side of the border; I wasn't able to stay for it. There were big banners and murals on the wall of the former theatre, calling for release of political prisoners and solidarity with the rebellions in Atenco and Oaxaca. However the Zapatista movement many years ago laid down its arms and is now a non violent resistance movement.

The organizers had free food for the delegados: bagels, pan dulce, soup, and yes, soy ceviche. What really made me feel good is that the majority of people there were youth in their late teens and twenties. Some started spontaneously dancing in the street. Young anarchistas were there in large members, along with Marxist group adherents. There was a great poster on the wall of the multikultii that said "We Support Our Troops" in red, white and blue and below it "Rage Against the Machine." In the photo between the slogans was masked Zapatista guerrillas - OUR troops! You get it? That rocked!

Seeing so many youth there gave me hope that we can - and must - change things in both Mexico and here in the Belly of the Bush.

On the next day, Marcos went to Mexicali to speak up for the fishing rights of indigenous people. Fishermen in Mexico, just like here in California, are having their fishing rights stripped through an unholy alliance of corporate "conservation" groups and the federal and state governments. They do it under the guise of creating "marine protected areas" and "bioreserves," rather than tackling the real problems that cause fishery declines - water exports, water pollution, habitat destruction and industrial plunder of fisheries by global corporations. Here's the story from narconews:


Marcos: The Zapatistas Will Defend the Cucapa and Kiliwa Peoples of Baja California

The Kiliwa Had Declared a “Death Pact” After the Government and Gringo “Conservation” Groups Forbade Them from Fishing; Next Fishing Season Will See a Zapatista Camp on Their Lands

By Kristin Bricker

The Other Journalism with the Other Campaign in Baja California
October 22, 2006

MEXICALI, BAJA CALIFORNIA: Delegate Zero announced a bold new step in the Other Campaign October 20 in El Mayor, Baja California: a Zapatista camp in the Cucapa and Kiliwa indigenous communities, located just outside of Mexicali, to protect them during the upcoming fishing season and prevent a “death pact” from being fulfilled. He also shed further light on the next phase of the Other Campaign.

The Cucapa and Kiliwa indigenous communities are facing extinction. Of the Cucapas, less then 300 remain; of the Kiliwas, 54. While the government does not concern itself with preserving their culture, traditions, and very existence, it is very concerned about the fish they rely on for their very survival.

The federal government, with the support of “conservation” organizations such as the World Wildlife Fund and Conservation International (who are notorious for protecting endangered species by kicking endangered peoples out of their land), turned the waters they’ve fished for generations into the Biosphere Reserve of the Upper Gulf of California on June 10, 1993, because it was “in the public interest,” according to the official website of the government’s National Commission of Protected Natural Areas. The website also notes that 77 percent of the people who live in and around the reserve rely on fishing for their livelihoods, so it is unclear which public interest the fishing ban in the protected area serves.

The problem isn’t that the Cucapas and the Kiliwas don’t want to preserve the endangered fish and dolphins. They point out that it is in their best interest to protect the species they rely upon for their livelihood, and they want very much to be custodians of the river and its fish, as they have been for generations. Hilda Hurtado Valenzuela, the secretary of the Cucapa fishing cooperative, maintains that the Cucapas and Kiliwas are not responsible for the over-fishing, though they bear the brunt of its consequences. She says that they never intentionally fished the endangered species, though if they happened to catch some they used them for their own consumption – they never sold them. Now, she says, they don’t even do that, because if they get caught taking a protected fish from the river they will go to jail, or worse.

To protect the endangered fish, armed federal soldiers constantly patrol the reserve and accost the fishermen who come to fish. Hilda Hurtado Valenzuela recounted to Subcomandante Marcos how soldiers detained her pregnant daughter, who was trying to fish, by pointing their guns at her belly. Furthermore, the community has approximately thirty outstanding warrants for illegal fishing, including one for seven kilograms of fish.

Cross-Border Solidarity

In protest against the forceful dispossession of their lands and the destruction of their culture, the Kiliwas took a death pact. The women have agreed to stop having children, and the Kiliwas will die with this generation. Marcos, however, intends to use the power of the Other Campaign to convince them that they are not alone, and that it is not worth it to die from a death pact when they can die fighting.
When community members finished explaining their struggle and their death pact to the Sixth Commission, Delegate Zero requested an intermission and private meeting with community authorities. When they returned to the public forum, Marcos publicly disclosed the results of the meeting.

He proposed to the Cucapa and Kiliwa authorities, in the name of the Zapatista communities, that a Zapatista camp be created during the 2007 fishing season, beginning at the end of February and ending in mid-May.

In announcing the call for a Zapatista camp, Delegate Zero said, “We have decided to send an urgent message to the Mexicans and Chicanos north of the Rio Grande to come here in order to maximize the number of people here, create a safe space, and protect the Cucapa and Kiliwa community during the fishing season.” He later elaborated that these activists will form a peace camp in the community and brigades that will accompany the fishermen and fisherwomen to the river. The Mexicali adherents to the Other Campaign will meet next week to begin to organize the action. Marcos promised, “The only thing that will keep us from coming here is a formal request from the Kiliwa and Cucapa authorities.”

This request isn’t likely to come. In reaction to Delegate Zero’s proposal for a Zapatista camp, Hilda Hurtado Valenzuela, a Cucapa authority herself, said, “We’re very happy to have someone come here and give us a hand because we’ve already petitioned the government, gone through mediation – all the legal routes.” Their requests and negotiations with the government have not produced any positive results.

The proposed Zapatista camp in El Mayor could very well change the route of the next phase of the Other Campaign, when two comandantes go to each zone to live there and organize. Marcos revealed that the proposal to adherents for the next phase will include the following: that they will organize the tour in December, release the First Declaration of the Other Campaign in January, and begin the next phase of the Other Campaign in February with the Kiliwa in the Mexican northeast – not in the southwest, as had originally been planned.

Narco News is funded by your contributions to The Fund for Authentic Journalism. Please make journalism like this possible by going to The Fund's web site and making a contribution today.

El Sub takes a leak on the border fence (courtesy of indymediatijuana)

by Dan Bacher Tuesday Oct 24th, 2006 5:08 PM


Cucapa's fish scarcity result of Rio Colorado dams/diversions

by no fresh agua = salinity of delta fishery

Tuesday Oct 24th, 2006 7:01 PM

The Cucapa's main problem with access to their fishery over the last several decades are the dams and diversions of fresh Rio Colorado agua away from the delta, leaving the bioregion with increased salinity from the Sea of Cortez as quality fresh water for thousands of years supported a vibrant ecosystem is now lacking (several decades) since the presence of the Rio Colorado dams..

"Fifty miles south of the U.S. border in Mexico's Baja California, the great river of the West that I had followed from beginning to end was gone, the water in its bed a shallow, narrow sump of salt and pesticide-laced runoff from crop irrigation.

"Es nuestra vida -- It is our life," said El Coyote, summing up 2,000 years of his people's sustenance from this area. But for half a century the delta had been dying, and with it the Cucapa culture. No longer can tribal members hunt mule deer, plant squash with the floods, harvest wild salt grass, or eat fish three times a day. Several species of fish and plant life have disappeared. The settlement has shrunk to about 85 families. The once rich estuary is filled with weeds, trash, and occasional swamps of unhealthy water -- barely enough to float their boats. Last year, the fourth year of drought, the water dropped to its lowest level in tribal memory. The Cucapa were lucky to eat fish once a week.

"We are the river people. We' re still here," said Ricardo. "But what river? I haven't seen it. It doesn't get this far."
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read on @;
http://carbon.cudenver.edu/stc-link/weblink/water/materials/carrier.html

Scientists claim that with only a 1% increase in fresh rio water reaching the delta the ecosystem may recover. However, the GW bush regime will not even give the Cucapa residents 1% fresh water, instead they allowed additional diversions of freshwater to unsustainable agribusiness, golf course lawns, etc.. in the hot, dry desert ecosystem..

"The ruling flies in the face of the well-recognized principle of international environmental law that each country has not only the sovereign right to manage its own affairs but also the solemn responsibility to ensure that activities within its borders do not cause environmental harm elsewhere. The over-riding issue here is one of cross-border equity. By modern standards, the U.S. basically stole the Colorado River from Mexico -- and continues to steal it every day it does not allow sufficient water to cross the border to provide for the reasonable ecological, economic and cultural health of the delta and gulf."

"This decision tramples on the commonsense notion that the United States should be a good neighbor, said David Hogan, Rivers Program Coordinator for the Center for Biological Diversity. "Apparently it's not enough for the U.S. Government to ignore our own environment – we're wrecking Mexico's as well. It's snubs like this that lead to international political hostility toward our country."

read on @;
http://www.defenders.org/releases/pr2003/pr040203.html

For detailed info on the Colorado delta ecosystem, download a sample chapter of Charles Bergman's "Red Delta: Fighting for Life at the End of the Colorado River" @;
http://www.plu.edu/~bergmaca/books/books.htm

The Cucapa face cultural genocide as they find life in the formerly productive Colorado delta now nearly impossible as lack of fresh rio water makes the salinity of the Sea of Cortez almost unbearable for indigenous aquatic species. Also a lack of mineral sediment input from rio flows negatively effects the base level of the food pyramid (ie., plankton), a major source of biomass for the fish..

If the Cucapa cannot live in their Rio Colorado delta ecosystem, they are coerced through hunger and poverty into workplace assimilation (ie., loss of culture) through the maquiladora sweatshops nearby along the border, or worse yet enscripted into near slavery conditions across the imaginary border into the US industrial agriculture plantations who steal their rio agua to begin with. Again, we're back to the logical fallacy of growing temperate climate adapted iceberg lettuce in the HOT DRY Imperial Valley desert ecosystem, drawing up so much water over long distances that they pull along some perchlorate in the process..

"Perchlorate, which impairs the thyroid’s ability to take up iodide and produce hormones critical to proper fetal and infant brain development, has contaminated almost 300 drinking water sources and farm wells in California and an unknown number of sources in at least fifteen other states. Sources known to be contaminated include the Colorado River from near Las Vegas to the Mexican border — the primary or sole source of irrigation water for farms in California, Arizona and Nevada that grow the great majority of the lettuce sold in the U.S. during winter months."

read on @;
http://www.ewg.org/reports/rocketlettuce/

Tepary beans and other drought tolerant native food crops could solve the problems of drought in the delta by requiring less irrigation water and giving the Colorado delta 1% or more fresh rio agua to restore their ecosystem fishery. Then the Cucapa could remain in the delta with their culture and food web intact (ie., restored to pre-dam conditions of abundance), and local campesino farmers could grow tepary beans in desert community gardens on either side of the imaginary border through the desert ecosystem..

"In addition to the potential health benefits of traditional desert foods, agricultural and economic factors strongly favor their production. Marty Eberhardt the director of the Tucson Botanical Gardens, pointed out that the plants that produce these foods are naturally adapted to growing under conditions of high heat and little water.

Government food programs replaced the tepary bean, which is rich in fiber, protein, iron, and calcium, with the pinto bean, which is far more quickly digested and also lower in protein.

Martha Burgess, education director of Native Seeds/ Search, a seed bank and research and education organization here that studies and promotes the use of native desert plant foods, said, for example, that "If tepary bean plants are given lots of water, they produce tons of foliage and few beans," adding, "But if the plants are starved of water, they put their effort into flowers and seeds and produce beans that can have as much protein as soybeans."
"

read on @;
http://www.spmesquite.com/articles/ancientfoods.html

Economics cannot be seperate from ecology, the genocide perpetuated against indigenous nations residing on both sides of the Mexico/US border (Seri, Cocapa, Tohono O'odham) via forced assimilation, deprivatrion of native food webs, etc.. can be halted by a return to ecological sanity as if Madre Tierra mattered. Like the sangre flowing through her veins, los rios cannot continue to be blocked, the Rio Colorado dams represent cholesterol blocking the flow of Madre Tierra's life blood, and we certainly will not sit back and allow our nurturing Madre to have a heart attack from foolish political decisions and agua theft from industrial agribusiness..

Say adios to the dams blocking the Rio Colorado's agua, they're a comin on down!!


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