Fight Breaks Out At March For America Rally Phx Az : AZ IMC

it's a racist organization,since it included JT Ready as a speaker at the event...

i'd like to hear the counter-argument, since jt ready was exposed as a racist in the new times (see this). jt's racist personal page has since been removed, apparently, but i saw it when it was up. it was on newsaxon.com. white supremacist bullshit.

AZ Radio IMC maxed his Digital Recorder,N.T.'s Stephen maxed out his tape recorder,so it's only right-wing Todd in photo that has the whole audio of these 'fight',so probably Stephen will rant in the next New Times paper.
http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=49524

TURD REICH

As if this tweeter needed more proof that AZ's nativist movement is riddled with racists, rednecks, and raving wing-nuts, the anti-immigrant protest at the state Capitol on Saturday, June 16, featured a rabble-rousing speech by none other than the Ernst Roehm of the East Valley, the Martin Bormann of Mesa, everyone's favorite fat-boy fascist, J.T. Ready.

That's the same J.T. Ready outed by this pugnacious plover and the Anti-Defamation League as a white supremacist; the one who's kept a page on the neo-Nazi Web site newsaxon.com (now newsaxon.org), a racist MySpace "for whites by whites." Ready reportedly attended last year's PHX Winterfest event, hosted by the neo-Nazi National Vanguard, and he's posted white supremacist messages on the blog of The Bird's doppelgänger, Feathered Bastard.

Nonetheless, the failed Mesa City Council candidate was welcomed, cheered, and embraced by a crowd of about 300 on the Capitol lawn, a crowd angered whenever the term "racist" was used to describe their movement. A regular Nuremberg rally for numbskulls. A true Triumph of the Swill.

His massive frame shoved sausage-like into a dark suit, J.T. palled with bosom bigot buddy state Representative Russell Pearce (wearing an American flag shirt) before and after Ready spoke during the five-hour prejudice powwow. On the podium, Ready was easily the most popular speaker, aside, perhaps, from the Yosemite Sam-like Buffalo Rick, a gimpy, grumpy ol' coot who looks like he, in the words of the classic SNL skit, "lives in a van, down by the river." Buffalo may not be a crazy homeless man, but he could pass.

Hermann Goering-esque gasbag J.T. whipped the audience of white-trash wackos into a frothing-at-the-mouth furor, denouncing AZ Republican Senator Jon Kyl as a traitor for supporting immigration reform, and giving the audience his four-point program for an all-American authoritarian state, presumably with jumbo J.T. as its flabby führer:

"All the politicians wanna say it [immigration] is a complex problem," yelled Ready. "Well, I got it for you, one, two, three, four. Ya ready? Number one: Put the 1st Marine Division on the southern border. Number two: Put the 2nd Marine Division on the northern border. Number three: Put the 3rd Marine Division at our ports and shores. Number four: Our 4th Marine division needs to be within the interior moppin' up these gangbangers and takin' 'em out of here."

Of course, military-lovin' Redneck Ready never mentioned that he was court-martialed twice and kicked out of the Marines with a bad conduct discharge. Or that in 2006, he was replaced as the master of ceremonies for Mesa's Veterans Day parade after vets discovered the truth of his piss-poor service record. He's also had, and continues to have, run-ins with the police.

On his Newsaxon Web page, Ready listed National Alliance founder William Pierce's The Turner Diaries as one of his favorite books. The Turner Diaries is an apocalyptic tale of race war, one that inspired Timothy McVeigh to blow up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

Here's hoping no one rents Ready a Ryder truck.

After J.T., the fun continued, with scraggly snagglepuss Buffalo Rick taking the podium, shouting at the top of his lungs like some deranged lunatic. Recognizing this plumed penman standing in the crowd, he announced:

"There are people among us today who call themselves journalists. They call themselves reporters — basically people like The Bird down here from the New Times, who seems to think we're all racist bigots. I got news for ya, if we were racist bigots, you'd be hanging from that tree."

In other words, a good, old-fashioned KKK-style lynching.

For the rest of the event, this wacky warbler challenged folks about Ready's presence. Some claimed not to know who he was, though he'd just been up there leading them in chants of "U-S-A, U-S-A." Some defended him. Still others seemed to think his white nationalism didn't matter.

This beetle-eater missed a chance to buttonhole former Congressman J.D. Hayworth about his guilt by association, but did get to chat with mayoral hopeful Steve Lory and PHX City Council candidate Jack Watson. Both said they were not aware of Ready's racist activities. Surprisingly, both said they would have taken to the stage and spoken even if they'd known.

Lory claimed it was a freedom of speech issue.

"You're gonna get that at any event," he tutted to this toucan. "What are you gonna do if you're organizing this event? You say to someone like him, 'I don't like your views, you're out?'"

Um, yeah. That's exactly what you would do if you didn't want your name or movement linked to him. Look, Lory's no racist. The nightclub he ran until it was forced to close by the city, Blaze, catered to a black and Hispanic crowd. But if you're appearing at a rally that features an unabashed white supremacist, it begs the question: At what point do you say it crosses the line? What if Ready showed up in a brown shirt and swastika armband, for instance?

Lory can't say Ready was the only one there espousing such views. The Bird spotted skinheads in attendance, and there was one Scottish bloke who even defended the racist shorthand of 14/88 (88 being code for HH, or Heil Hitler, and 14 being the famous supremacist slogan uttered by neo-Nazi David Lane). Braveheart-boy also called the Holocaust a "hollow hoax," a belief right at home in the doofus' hollow head.

And these idjits in the anti-immigrant movement can't figure out why they get tarred with the racist label!?

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Wing-nut wrap-up: Todd "Twinkle Toes" Hartley and I cross verbal swords at Sat.'s anti-immigrant hoedown.
Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 10:03:36 AM

Hartley (right) and I at Saturday's prejudice party, pic from Arizona.indymedia.org .

A few tidbits more about last Saturday's bigot bash at the AZ Capitol. At the very end, I got into what you might call a spirited discussion with the master of ceremonies, this dood Todd "Twinkle Toes" Hartley, editor and chief bottle washer over at PHXnews.com. Someone at Arizona.indymedia.org posted the pic above which shows Hartley et moi talking with the caption, "It was a verbal fight, but almost turned physical." I don't think it was that bad. Sure, it wasn't the college debate club. It was an argument, and I enjoyed it, as I enjoy most arguments.

Basically, I just wanted to ask the twerpy, mandal-wearin' Hartley if he had any qualms about introducing white supremacist J.T. Ready along with all the other speakers. Hartley pulled out his tape recorder, taping me as I taped him. Then he informed me that he had just been asked that week to emcee, and that he hosted "the most listened to immigration podcast on the Web." (Dare to dream!) That's when I asked my J.T. Ready question.

"Today’s the first time I ever met him," he replied. "I’m given a nice list of people to introduce. I’m sure that if I spent time, and God knows I could, I might be able to find stuff on you. And if not a direct link, some kind of connection."

Connection to what -- white supremacy? Riiight. I'd stay away from those car exhaust fumes if I were you, Toddy. That shit kills brain cells.

Anyhoo, his response seems to acknowledge that Ready has an unsavory history, and implies that Hartley doesn't much care if the guy is a white supremacist. All he was doing was introducing folks, right? So I asked the following and it went downhill from there:

Me: If David Duke was on the list you’d be alright with that too?

Hartley: I don’t think I would, in fact I appreciate your baiting.

Me: It’s a hypothetical--

Hartley: If Michael Moore was on the list, and they invited him, and I am their guest, I’m going to introduce the people they invited.

Me: Even if it was David Duke, or someone like that?

Hartley: I’m not interested in falling for your bait. It’s childish.

Me: It’s not childish. It’s a very serious problem.

Hartley: Excuse me, what you think is the serious problem is ass-backwards. The serious problem is you go back to the New Times and you take one little word out of this which says, `No Todd was dodging the question. He said blah-blah-blah about David Duke.' And you know what happens? Then you start creating this uh this whole big feeling. You don’t have to make faces, you’re a grown man. This whole big feeling—

Me: I’m not making faces, I’m trying to understand--

Hartley: I know, the New Times is a little slow, so I’ll break it down a little slower for you—

Me: Not slow enough to have a neo-Nazi on stage with me…

And so it went. Hartley went on to brag that his site gets more readers than New Times, that he makes more money than I do, and so on. Not sure that's true, or what exactly that has to do with anything. But I guess it made him feel good, especially when he really couldn't argue with the fact that he had just introduced a white supremacist.

Since my initial blog post on Saturday's events, some have suggested this is a big free speech issue, which is a load of bull hockey. I would never suggest that people be denied the right to assemble and make their voices heard. However, if I headed, say, a prominent Democratic group, and I had a vocal member of some Communist organization speak at one of our rallies, you're telling me that right-wing columnists, radio hosts and the like wouldn't hop on that like a leopard on a steaming hunk of antelope carcass? Of course they would, and they'd have the right to do so.

J.T. Ready's presence and popularity at Saturday's rally is highly disturbing for a number of reasons. He has openly attended neo-Nazi meetings (the National Vanguard's Winterfest conference last year in Phoenix), and posted his profile on a prominent white supremacist Web site. He's had run-ins with the police, fudged his military record, and engaged in what some might call vigilante activity. He himself is direct proof of what the ADL said earlier this year about the nativist movement: That it is a magnet for extremists such as Ready, and that there is significant overlap between the anti-illegal movement, and skinheads and white supremacists. Just read the comments on my 6/18 post Triumph of the Swill, and get a load of the crackpot Holocaust-denial. That also proves the point.

I mean, Sen. Jon Kyl, one of the most conservative individuals in the U.S. Senate is a "traitor" to these loonies. Todd Hartley actually called for Sen. John McCain to be "deported" during the event. Empty rhetoric, and also completely wacko. These 21st Century Know Nothings refuse all compromise. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is a traitor, and most of them are virulently xenophobic. Are they all 100% racist? No, there are also some naive types in the mix. But if they're attending rallies where J.T. Ready is being applauded and hailed, then they have a duty to separate themselves from him. And if this movement does not wish to be thought of as anti-Mexican, it should purge itself of its most lunatic fringe.

Thing is, if that were to happen, I doubt there'd be many of the goobers left.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2007/06/wingnut_wrapup_todd_twinkle_to.php