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FITNA NO LONGER ON LIVELEAK, STILL ON YOUTUBE
by ATBOTH Saturday, Mar. 29, 2008 at 7:39 AM

FITNA NO LONGER ON LIVELEAK, STILL ON YOUTUBE

FITNA NO LONGER ON LIVELEAK, STILL ON YOUTUBE
The company hosting FITNA, LiveLeak, has removed the Geert Wilders' movie from its servers.


Their statement below makes clear why:

"This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to place the safety and well being of our staff above all else. We would like to thank the thousands of people, from all backgrounds and religions, who gave us their support. They realized LiveLeak.com is a vehicle for many opinions and not just for the support of one.

Perhaps there is still hope that this situation may produce a discussion that could benefit and educate all of us as to how we can accept one another's culture.

We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high."


Their statement was quoted in an article in the NRC Handelsblad:
http://www.nrc.nl/media/article1029097.ece/Liveleak_verwijdert_film_Fitna_na_bedreigingen

[Note: article includes link to YOUTUBE copy of FITNA, which bypasses need to log in or sign up. YOUTUBE also here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCrCsTMokTU]

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More on Fitna
by More on Fitna Saturday, Mar. 29, 2008 at 7:49 PM

As some of you have noticed, the link to the Fitna video by Wilders was removed because of threats by Muslims. So much for free speech.

However, You Tube has now posted the link and you can watch it there. It is in two parts.

http://www.fitnamovie.net/tag/fitna-youtube/

Here are some additional related links:


http://www.themoviefitna.com
http://europenews.dk/en/node/8787 <http://europenews.dk/en/node/8787>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQc4eh2AQ3g <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQc4eh2AQ3g>
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103 <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jUuzdfqfc <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jUuzdfqfc>
http://dinahlord.blogspot.com <http://dinahlord.blogspot.com>

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FITNA
by ATBOTH Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2008 at 11:17 AM

FITNA
Geert Wilders has released his movie FITNA. It can be viewed by clicking the links below.

It is, for Westerners, perhaps not as shocking as it has been made out to be - we've already seen footage of planes slamming into buildings, non-Muslims being slaughtered, and gays and women being executed. We've obediently watched the educational films coming out of the Muslim world for years, and have seen Nick Berg, Daniel Pearl, and hundreds of others losing their heads repeatedly.

[We've also watched tapes of angry gentlemen with beards sternly lecturing us from such places as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere. We've watched footage of the praestations of their followers with great interest. It's almost an obsession, especially when the football season is over]

[Update at 3:18 PM: FITNA can also be seen on YOUTUBE here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCrCsTMokTU ]


But I can imagine that for some of the more out-of-the-loop people elsewhere, the movie may prove disturbing. Following bloody-minded quotes from the Quran and hate-sermons with actual footage of those messages being taken literally could, conceivably, be offensive to some.

[A few simple cartoons upset them a while back. A work of fiction by a distinguished British author of subcontinental derivation gave Ayatollah Khomeini indigestion. Two office buildings and two subway systems really irritated some people in Afghanistan. Danish butter disagrees with lots of people (especially in the Sudan). These are profound mysteries.]


But the danger that Geert Wilders perceives is real, and the polarization of Dutch society is a fact.
It was not Western liberals who polarized Dutch society. It was not Western liberals who sliced off the heads of captives. It was not Western liberals who rioted against cartoons and screamed threats of death. It was not Western liberals who killed Theo van Gogh, chased Ajaan Hirsi Ali out of the Netherlands, and regularly threaten brutal death to politicians in Amsterdam and other cities of the lowlands.

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