Is Islam Responsible for the Ft. Hood Massacre? : AZ IMC

Bits and pieces of information began to dribble out about Nidal Malik Hasan. Incorrect information flew in every direction. Such as: It must have been post-traumatic shock syndrome from his time in the war zone. No, he was never there. Well, then it must have been from hearing the horror stories of men who WERE in the war zone.

A family member swore that Hasan loved America but he had been “picked on” after 9/11 for being Muslim. Let’s all feel guilty that as he was enjoying the career paid for by the American taxpayer, as was his medical education, he heard a few harsh words after members of his religion attacked the country. But fat kids are picked on all the time and they don’t kill people.

Medical professionals have been paraded before the cameras giving their slant of why this man did what he did. Fear of going into a war zone was a popular excuse. ''He must have had some underlying mental instability that started years ago and he just snapped.”

Actually, the latter is closer to the truth than they realize. He was suffering from a long-standing mental instability- -and it is called Islam.

Americans must realize that Muslim children, especially the boys, are taught from birth that Islam must dominate the world. If someone refuses to convert to Islam, it is justified to kill or enslave them. The mere fact that someone doesn’t believe in Islam is reason to wage war on the unbeliever. Most American Muslims are taught that Islam comes first. Muslims have no country; they have only Islam. Nidal Malik Hasan eventually fell into the same camp as Bin Laden, only on a smaller scale.

The “prime directive” of Islam put Hasan in an impossible situation and mentally, he could not deal with it. In the end, Islam won.

Americans need to stop and think about the events of the last few days. One Muslim caused absolute panic and pandemonium. Thirteen good and true Americans lost their lives and over thirty people were wounded in the span of three minutes at the hands of only one Muslim with two handguns.

As most people were dumbstruck, make no mistake, Muslims all over the world were laughing. Look at what just one Islamic warrior can do to the great America. How weak Americans must be. Look at them crying and running in fear. What an easy target America has become--again. Listen to them making excuses for Hasan so as not to offend Islam while ignoring the obvious. Hasan will now join the ranks of Islamic heroes.

Hasan knew his career in the American military was in direct conflict with the teachings of Islam. The American military is not about assuring that Islam will dominate the world, it is about stopping Islam from dominating the world.

Imam Mohammed Abdullahi told the world that Islam was not responsible for Hasan. "Islam doesn't command anybody to do something like that," said Shaikh Khamis. I beg to differ. The Qur’an is full of commands to do exactly what Hasan did. Islam is absolutely responsible for what Hasan did.

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth…"

Qur'an (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

There should be no doubt that Hasan did not expect to survive the attack. He shouted the obligatory “Allahu Akbar!” as he killed. He had given away all his worldly goods. Hasan fully expected to be relaxing with a bunch of virgins that Allah would gratefully provide to him for his great and brave act of gunning down unarmed Americans and causing near hysteria on the largest military base in the heart of America. He killed in the name of Allah and Islam.

One of the most interesting aspects of this Muslim named Nidal Malik Hasan was his comparison of Muslim suicide bombers to American soldiers who had thrown themselves on grenades to save their fellow soldiers. Hason believed that all those brave Muslim martyr-bombers were doing was killing American soldiers to save their fellow Muslims.

In the twisted minds of many Muslims, the simple statistic that their “heroic” suicide bombers rarely target the enemy but instead kill fellow Muslims escapes them. Bombers have attacked Muslim weddings, ice cream shops jammed with Muslim children, playgrounds, and busy markets teaming with Muslim shoppers. They have killed fellow Muslims on their way to Muslim shrines to pray. Suicide bombers have also killed innocent civilians on trains, buses, and subways all over the world. But, remember, Islam teaches that in war, there is no such thing as a “civilian.”

Did Hasan forget about the Muslim woman, who, on her husband’s orders, sat with the Muslim women, small children, and babies at a Muslim wedding in Egypt and tried to detonate the bomb she was wearing? Fortunately, it malfunctioned and while her husband blew the wedding party to bits, at least the children were spared. The woman had little remorse. She just did what her husband and Islam told her to do. There was not a single American soldier near that wedding.

While many search for some complicated, psychological answer to the question, “Why did he do it?” the answer is really very simple. Islamic teaching instructed him to do it. How could he compare American soldiers to suicide bombers? That too is easy, he just refused to believe that Muslims slaughter fellow Muslims every day. After all, Islam forbids such things so it must all be a lie. A true Muslim never lets the facts get in the way.

A spokesman for CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) was quick to get his face on television condemning the murders. Don’t believe him, not for a second. Understand this: It is mandatory for Muslims to lie to the enemy. Lying to infidels is expected and sanctioned. He said what was expected of him and nothing more. He “calmed the masses” back into believing this was the solitary act of a madman. It was not the act of a madman, but a devote Muslim carrying out the teachings of Islam. After all, one of CAIR’s mission statements is to replace the Constitution with the Qu’ran. Can that be accomplished without violence? Unlikely.

Ponder this fact: There are approximately six million Muslims in America. If just one half of one percent of them decide to act as Hasan did, that is 30,000 Muslims going on a one-man rampage. If they are as successful as Hasan was and manage to kill 13 Americans, that is a staggering 390,000 dead Americans. Hasan was not the first and he will not be the last Muslim to kill Americans right here on American soil.

One also must ask, why was this man even allowed to remain in the military after his outlandish anti-American comments? Was this not ''conduct unbecoming of an officer''? Was it because no one wanted to be accused of being anti-Muslim? Was it that no one wanted to be accused of “picking” on Hasan the Muslim? Are there “hands-off” orders in the military concerning Muslims? This man waved so many red flags that a blind man could have felt the breeze, yet, though he was being “observed,” he was not stopped. Now, thirteen good Americans are dead.

One person stated that Hasan told him that he was a Muslim first and an American second. Hasan was born and raised here in America yet the pull of Islam was so strong that he was willing to kill for Islam and to die for Islam. How many more Hasans are out there, waiting for their chance to become martyrs for Islam?

I once made the statement that there is a terrorist inside every Muslim, planted there at birth by Islam. It’s just a matter of which is stronger, their true instinct of what is right and wrong, or the teachings of Islam. Millions upon millions of Muslims know that murder in the name of Islam is wrong and will not do it. But there are many that will, and it only takes a few to cause havoc and death on a massive scale. The problem isn’t Muslims, the problem is the violent teachings of Islam and those who follow those violent commands

I wont bother to critique this anti-
Islamic scree from the Israeli ministry of hate , suffice to say that religious extremists who think god gave them the right to invade and slaughter a native population to make 'living room' ( labinshrawm, in German ) for a cult that never even had ancestors living there is not a cult of peace.
Leaving the misery and grief of 60 plus years of Israeli terror.
These propagandists for Israel swim eat and breath in hypocrisy. Leaving the sh*t stain of zionism on all Jews.

How about that, boys and girls?! It thinks it's special! It thinks the whole world needs it's opinion.

Maybe they'll come back someday and finish this IMC by burning down the garrage it's hosted in after taking these tidal waves of zionist sewage which blocks all other news like Cleveland's unemployed or the banking bailout but remains only about Israel and their enemies.
Like the readership.

but we always have the frenzied attempt to weld Jews to this murderous cult.

Thanks for your continued help in taking down the indymedia,

shit

for

brains.

I'll gladly help you shit in your nest.

since the Israeli intelligence services were involved in, this at least as far as the rumor mill asset goes, might we also wonder if perhaps the technicians who fired off nearly a 100 rounds were Israeli, since they have little compunction towards killing American troops; or Sailors. They seemed to have evaporated like the secret service did on the streets of Dallas in 1963

Malik Hasan was an American of Palestinian origin. He was motivated by religious zeal.
He is the latest in a short list of notorious palestinian Americans, including Sirhan Sirhan, murderer of Robert F Kennedy, and the Octomom.

The previous two posts were made by shit for brains.

It wants you to catch it shitting in it's own nest, boys and girls. What's up with that?

keep on stinking
by dead skunks and black ops Friday, Nov. 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM

funny how this disturbed doctor was selected to be part of the president's task force on terrorism. Dead for six hours and now back to be waterboarded

cool! let me know when tickets go on sale.
can I bring my own popcorn?

you're going to waterboard a genuine demigod?
what about the actual shooters? The ones which have disappeared.Could be they may have been from Isreal c/o the CIA

the actual shooters
by see what we mean, boys and girls? Friday, Nov. 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

shit for brains must, actually must fellate the corpse of Arafat, the reputation of the indymedia be damned.

you must admit that coming back from the dead is even better than the disappearing act, huh? Try to stay on topic.

The vast majority of spree killers and serial killers in the US have been hardcore christian. So we must ask - if Islam played a role in the Fort Hood slayings, isn't that just an aberration of the status quo, which is that fanatical christianity is the brainfood of American mass-murderers?

if Islam played a roll...
what if it didn't and this is another mass murder false flag to blame the new enemy?
what about the unanswered questions that beg to be asked?

Masturbate to this, terrorist sympathizer.

nothing
again.
your mass murdering Mossad operatives blew their cover like you have.
Really stepped in a deep big hole of unanswerable questions with this black ops.
Funny pictures notwithstanding...
you're busted

http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/04/10492_comment.php

realist
by realist Saturday May 07, 2005 at 07:36 AM

let's face it: the NAZI is most important to the jew.
without the Nazi.... without the Swastika.... without the Holocaust.... jews have NO identity.
I mean... WHAT is their claim to fame? THEY ARE "VICTIMS".... that's all. That's ALL they have to offer. Their sole existence is that of being a victim.
I mean what else have they done????
Oh yeah...
the killed Christ.

And now they are after you.

Because they are victims.

I'm cryin' - aren't you?

claiming all sorts of things and careening off topic to hide the unfortunate holes in the Ft. Hood shootings? No, of course not.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3342040.ece?print=yes&randnum=1258862604740

February 10, 2008
Minister warns of ‘inbred’ Muslims
Dipesh Gadher, Christopher Morgan and Jonathan Oliver

A government minister has warned that inbreeding among immigrants is causing a surge in birth defects - comments likely to spark a new row over the place of Muslims in British society.

Phil Woolas, an environment minister, said the culture of arranged marriages between first cousins was the “elephant in the room”. Woolas, a former race relations minister, said: “If you have a child with your cousin the likelihood is there’ll be a genetic problem.”

The minister, whose views were supported by medical experts this weekend, said: “The issue we need to debate is first cousin marriages, whereby a lot of arranged marriages are with first cousins, and that produces lots of genetic problems in terms of disability [in children].”

Woolas emphasised the practice did not extend to all Muslim communities but was confined mainly to families originating from rural Pakistan. However, up to half of all marriages within these communities are estimated to involve first cousins.

Medical research suggests that while British Pakistanis are responsible for 3% of all births, they account for one in three British children born with genetic illnesses.

The minister’s comments come as Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, rejected calls to resign over claims that Islamic law should be introduced in Britain. “I’m not contemplating resignation,” he told friends.

Williams insists his remarks were misinterpreted and that he was not advocating a parallel sharia jurisdiction for Muslims, but Lord Carey, his predecessor, warned acceptance of Muslim laws in Britain would be "disastrous".

The archbishop is believed to have received hate mail since he made his controversial comments but has rejected offers of round-the-clock police protection.

Williams is set to clash with the government again this week by voicing opposition to plans to extend detention without charge for terrorist suspects to 42 days.

Woolas, who represents the ethnically mixed seat of Oldham East and Saddleworth, has previously warned that Muslim women who wear headscarves could provoke “fear and resentment”. Yesterday, he was similarly outspoken.

“If you talk to any primary care worker they will tell you that levels of disability among the . . . Pakistani population are higher than the general population. And everybody knows it’s caused by first cousin marriage.

“That’s a cultural thing rather than a religious thing. It is not illegal in this country.

“The problem is that many of the parents themselves and many of the public spokespeople are themselves products of first cousin marriages. It’s very difficult for people to say ‘you can’t do that’ because it’s a very sensitive, human thing.”

He added that the issue is not talked about. “The health authorities look into it. Most health workers and primary care trusts in areas like mine are very aware of it. But it’s a very sensitive issue. That’s why it’s not even a debate and people outside of these areas don’t really know it exists.”

Woolas was supported by Ann Cryer, Labour MP for Keighley, who called for the NHS to do more to warn parents of the dangers of inbreeding.

“This is to do with a medieval culture where you keep wealth within the family,” she said.

“If you go into a paediatric ward in Bradford or Keighley you will find more than half of the kids there are from the Asian community. Since Asians only represent 20%-30% of the population, you can see that they are over represented.

“I have encountered cases of blindness and deafness. There was one poor girl who had to have an oxygen tank on her back and breathe from a hole in the front of her neck.

“The parents were warned they should not have any more children. But when the husband returned again from Pakistan, within months they had another child with exactly the same condition.”

this is amusing how this spook monkey from the depths of a nice safe undisclosed location in Israel, cannot address the Questions.
Where did the shooters go?
Rise from the dead? How?
100 round from one 'lone gun [patsy]man'?
I hope you spooks all hang for this.

You're nothing unless you fellate the inbred.

It's almost a carbon copy of out resident shit for brains.

I'm laughing at Palestine.

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Major Nidal Hasan, charged with killing 13 in the Fort Hood shooting spree, is paralyzed from the chest down and is not a flight risk, said his defense attorney after a hearing before a military magistrate in Hasan's hospital room Saturday. The accused Fort Hood shooter had his first court hearing in the intensive care unit of a San Antonio hospital at 1 p.m. His status has now been changed from pre-trial restriction to pre-trial confinement, meaning that he will be confined until his court martial.

The military magistrate ruled that Hasan will stay at Brooke Army Medical Center for now, but the military has the option of moving him to another medical facility or to jail. According to defense attorney John Galligan, Hasan is paralyzed from the chest down, is incontinent and "in severe pain."

soon he'll be sprouting wings...
Speaking of which, where did the two Mossad [ shooters] technicians go after being detained?

As you were told from the very beginning, it will say absolutely anything and everything for attention. That's what inbreds do.

Remember to thank the mental defective for helping us take down the indymedia.

a key stroke away.
nothing about this amazing patsy

"patsy"
by how about that, boys and girls? Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009 at 8:34 PM

The dimwitted terrorist fellator keeps saying "patsy", as if it's trying to fool people. Remember, boys and girls, that it's the same inbred sack of feces that said pasty more than once.

(Hasan is still paralyzed, by the way. Expect more stupidity from shit for brains in the coming days. The holiday season is upon us, so shit for brains will likely go into overdrive until around mid-January, assuming it doesn't kill itself first. Should we create a countdown clock for it's suicide?).

and the Mossad shooters are still missing.
How did this patsy get appointed to the president's terrorism task force? Almost as good as rising from the dead..

http://la.indymedia.org/news/hidden.php?id=47530

Duh!
by Sheepdog Thursday, Jun. 05, 2003 at 7:29 PM

-the 9/11 disaster was a CIA
plot orchestrated by the White House.-
The CIA is supposed to be directed by the NSA or the
President, but compartmentalization prevents any kind of
over sight. You don't know squat about it. As usual.
The government has done next to nothing to bring to light the 9-11 event.
It seems Willys pee pee was more of a priority for investagation.

And nowhere has Yada [ Israeli propaganda / noise source ] been able to address the few items it can't answer.
rise from the dead?
100 rounds from only one shooter?
the vanished *other two detained shooters?
promoted and selected for a presidential think tank yet now painted as a devout and extreme Muslim [ who like strip bars ] who gave outrageous presentations yet no actions were ever taken. as he was *watched for at least the previous six months?
but the spook must avoid the holes in this blown black ops.

NAPLES — Ten North Naples Middle School students were suspended last week after district officials said they participated in “kick a Jew day.”

District Spokesman Joe Landon said a student told the dean of students at dismissal on Thursday that she was kicked because it was “kick a Jew day.”

The following morning Principal Margaret Jackson addressed the entire student body on the morning news regarding the incident, reviewing the code of student conduct, explaining why what happened was wrong, the need to respect one another and possible consequences, Landon said.

Jackson asked that anyone with information on the incident come to the office and speak with her or the assistant principal as they investigated the incident.

As a result, the district determined that 10 students should be punished. The students received a one day, in-school suspension, which was served today. The parents of the 10 students were also called and conferences with the parents followed the phone calls, according to Landon.

Parents of the students who were kicked were also notified of what happened, Landon said.

Landon said until further notice, the school will focus the first 20 minutes of each day on character traits, beginning with respect and kindness. Homeroom teachers will speak with the students about these traits and will focus on bullying prevention, he said. Videos on the topic will be sought out and used as part of the training, he said.

Landon said the first 20 minutes of the school day is normally used for reading time and tutoring time if students need help.

David Barkey, south area council for the Florida Anti-Definmation League, said the organization had been made aware of the incident.

“You are talking about an incident that has anti-Jewish bias if not anti-Semitism. You have Jewish students being singled out, harassed and assaulted,” he said. “If the allegations are true, it is possible these students violated Florida’s new anti-bullying law. And, if students were physically assaulted, it could rise to the level of criminal conduct.”

Rabbi James Perman, of Temple Shalom in North Naples, called the situation “alarming.”

“I can tell you this: I haven’t seen anything like it in my 17 years in Naples. No child deserves this kind of treatment,” he wrote in an e-mail Monday. “Their parents are understandably outraged. So far it seems that the school system has taken appropriate measures and we applaud their efforts. At this point, teaching sensitive awareness is more important than punishing anyone.”

Perman said how the situation is handled is of concern to those at the Temple because it involves children.

“Beyond that, there are critical issues for the entire Jewish community and beyond. ... These are not new issues for us here in Naples,” he wrote. “These 10 kids did not invent anti-Semitism. They found a sympathetic response that was already there on some level.”

He said the Temple is ready to help.

The Collier County School District has a policy on bullying and harassment. It defines bullying as “systematically and chronically inflicting physical hurt or psychological distress on one or more students or employees.”

Harassment is defined as “any threatening, insulting, or dehumanizing gesture, use of data or computer software, or written, verbal or physical conduct directed against a student or school employee that places a student or school employee in reasonable fear of harm to his/her person or damage to his/her property,” among other things.

The students were disciplined in accordance with the bullying and harassment policy, which can range from “positive behavioral interventions up to and including suspension or expulsion, as outlined in the Code of Student Conduct,” according to the district’s policy.

avoidance?
More than one shooter [two, in fact, according to the post commander] who has vanished
100 rounds from only one shooter?
This extremest Muslim who liked strip bars and blonds with light beer was never sanctioned? The upper chain of command which selected this patsy never questioned?
In spite of outrageous behavior?
Thanks for the bump.

now why do you think Yada needs to be so off topic?
Because the agency it represents can 't answer the few minor questions...
Where did the other shooters go?
Two different shootings at two different locations?
Two detained suspects that have vanished?
A chain of command that seems to nurture this individual?
A pasty in another public psyops at the expense of more American troops. poor bastards.
I want the individuals who allowed this situation to happen hanging from a rope.

Hasan will talk. We'll get all the Islamofascists eventually. The FBI are looking into it- they are searching Hasan's mosque. They are searching his computer. Likely the collaborators have flown back to Ramallah, but if they are still around, we'll get them before they can do any more mischief.

According to defense attorney John Galligan, Hasan is paralyzed from the chest down, is incontinent and "in severe pain

Oh, how special. He'll be in great shape to meet his 72 virgins. They can change his diaper for him

not only that
by but Hasan rises from the dead! Thursday, Nov. 26, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Now you may have thought the rest of this totally blown black ops would be enough to shred this event and the final official narrative, but rising from the *dead beats them all!

* For at least six hours?
Now before the internet, this crime of treason would have followed the usual media root of the established protocol with no questions ever brought to the public as the story morphed into the final version. Unfortunately for the planners of this psyops, this event can't be tossed into the memory hole.
Or hidden by numbingly repetitive mantras about the target of this operation.
Too bad about that.

Apparently a group of young men, their faces covered with Kaffiyehs, were photographed just outside Ft. hood, dancing and whooping "Allah Ak....bar". Thats why they think there are more people involved. But until they have them in custody, they are keeping it low key. The suspects may have returned to the West bank. Do you think there is any way the PA will cooperate with extradition?
I doubt it. And with the way Obama's been treating the ISraelis, I doubt he can convince them to go into the West Bank and bring them out.
So, I agree. When hasan talks, we'll have names and all the info we need.

now that's what I would call a strange CIA mosque; again one that is allowed to operate after supposed hijacker, Honi Hanjure [ you know, the pentagon wizard ace who manged to pull a miracle, impossible flight maneuver ] also was a regular visitor.
More strange connections showing a hidden hand sheltering this extremest, lap dance loving, light beer drinking, Muslim.
And no answers will ever come forward about this little discrepancy about this interesting patsy...
Or about the other two shooters.

The 9/11 Hijackers were Saudi, not Palestinian- I assume they attended a mosque in Saudi Arabia. Do you have information linking them to Maj. Hasan?
It has been speculated that Palestinian terror is financed by the Iranians- however if we could link it to the Saudis, that would be important. Its possible that all acts of extremist terror go beyond national borders. We saw that withthe terror in Mumbai

wonder no more
by shitferbrains equals Prion Partyy Thursday, Nov. 26, 2009 at 8:05 PM

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2009/11/232715_comment.php#232743

"What a show. Watch then squerm under the light of day. Watch the media mostly ignor their agony, hopping that the truth will just go away."

http://la.indymedia.org/news/hidden.php?id=232515

Name two posters here that can't spell or complete a sentence that makes any sense whatsoever.

republtrash

offnese

totaly

oh, and as to LA censorship
by they aren't "hidding" them Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Now being hidden @ LA IMC is something I'm sure you and your clone "Lord Locksley" should know something about.
What I'm refering to is the sleezy malware that doesn't allow me [ yes, it's personal] to even acsess the comments or publish function, the active interference of the tech, "johnk" in threads about sensative subjects and the *curious* selection of what to allow to spam endlessly into that forum.
This here, at Cleveland is blantant sandbagging and propaganda, endlessly repeated, of zionist fringe blog C &Ps together with the Spanish spam when you're resting or sleeping your fits off.

We know what a babbling schizophrenic can do to convince us of it's insane theories, don't we, boys and girls?

very telling
by Ft. Hood an Israeli Hit>? Friday, Nov. 27, 2009 at 6:55 AM

now it seems to me that there would be only one reason to vanish the other two shooters reported to have been in custody.
Mossad technicians who never minded killing American as long as it could be blamed on Palestine.

I think that it's a crying shame that those poor widdle Palestinian freedum fighters are so downtrodden and put upon.

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2009/11/75409_comment.php#75409

amusing avoidance
by Ft. Hood -Israeli shooters Friday, Nov. 27, 2009 at 7:46 AM

I see that the only counter to any of these unanswered questions is avoidance.
A black ops shredded in the information age.
A patsy risen from the dead... to have a show circus?

hASAN OBVIOUSLY WASN'T KILLED, THOUGH HAVING HIM LIE MOTIONLESS IN A POOL OF HIS OWN BLOOD MIGHT LED PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IT. NO, HE'LL STAND TRIAL AND FACE HIS PUNISHMENTS. hIS VIRGINS WILL HAVE TO WAIT A BIT MORE

eh... the post commander said he was dead. Kinda hard to mistake after four rounds on target.
The initial records not having been modified to meet the narrative are still archived.
the frantic attempt to cover this operation up is very amusing.
Wasted effort, but everyone serves somebody.

and the three previous posts were made by a babbling shitferbrains that serves Satan.

When did the post commander say he was dead? Shiow us.
And since you can only be declared dead by trained medical personnel, I'd discount his presumption as wishful thinking.
I'm also not convince Hasan acted alone- but time will tell- he is a classic coward, and he'll bring down his collaborators if he thinks it will save his butt

: “Newsradio 620 WTMJ: Lt. General Bob Cone at Fort Hood confirms 12 dead, 31 hurt in shooting. Soldier gunman killed. 2 others in custody.”[12] During the later afternoon, cable television talked of three shooters, and in the London Daily Mirror account we find: “Twelve people were killed and 31 wounded when three gunmen in uniform opened fire at the US Army’s largest armoured base in Texas yesterday. One gunman was shot by civilian police and the two others held at Fort Hood .”[13]
but now he's ready for a media trial.
Amazing grace.

Its too soon to know if its the work of a sleeper cell or just a deranged individual.

and the incident is going to be used to round up 'American al CIAda' for daring to criticize the slaughter of another nation for Israel's interests?
Now we know why Israel is over this ops like stink on shit.
And had the greatest to gain from it....

Maj. Hasan is just another in a series of illustrious Palestinians that include Sirhan Sirhan, murderer of RFK, and the Octomom.

And even through hasan was born in America, he considered himself Palestininian.

y'all are just going to avoid the thorns in this blanket aren't you?
Can't answer any of the impossible explanations or abilities of this patsy who, before rising from the dead, managed to be three shooters at two different locations before the cover story was formatted for propaganda reasons.
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2009/11/232345.php
Major Hasan- A Patsy in a Drill Gone Live?

Sheepdog, also known as Prion Partyy, (or shitferbrains for short) is awful busy posting to itself lately. Part of the holiday funk, i suppose.

nessie also went through bouts of holiday idiocy. Could there be a connection? They certainly all smell like fecal matter.

The only thing Israel had to do with this is that Hasan hates Israel as much as he hates America.

Maj. Hasan is just another in a series of illustrious Palestinians that include Sirhan Sirhan, murderer of RFK, and the Octomom.

And even through hasan was born in America, he considered himself Palestininian.

numbing mantras
by Ft. Hood -Israeli shooters Saturday, Nov. 28, 2009 at 7:27 AM

Again with the object of this black operation.
Tell me that Israel is not intimately involved with this obvious black ops as it had the most to gain. And are now frantically scrambling to cover the holes in this Mossad / CIA hit for a particular meme of 'sleeper cells' meaning Israel's enemies.
That's everyone, folks.

Why does Israel
have more to gain than Afghanistan? Iraq? The Palestinians?

Seems like the Palestininians are asserting themselves and saying America won't be safe until they get what they want. Its just a matter of time before they start blowing up cafes in America, too

now why do you think that our resident Israeli spook cannot answer any question as posted repeatedly before?
The answers lead to the Mossad and CIA.
And a patsy named Hasan.

And Yada thinks posting a keystroke witless comment will help the case of this black ops.
Who supervised this man? Why wasn't he sanctioned for his radical extremest views? I was in the Army and this sort of behavior is not usually condoned by the upper command chains. He was promoted and selected to be in the presidential terrorism task force.
Why?
Because he was needed for something.
where are the other two shooters?

Submit to Islam
by Hasan is just the begining Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Submit to Islam. That is the lesson here.

screeching Tourretts
by Israeli spooks leaving brown trail Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009 at 5:25 PM

I think everyone should know by now what an Israeli spook does when its trying to run with its trousers around its ankles after a rape. One it's trying to paste on a patsy.
scroll back and observe the infantile attempts to derail the questions for yourself about Ft. Hood.
Either espionage or treason; these assholes, along with whomever supervised this mass murder, should hang.

America vs. The Narrative
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
What should we make of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who apparently killed 13 innocent people at Fort Hood?

Here’s my take: Major Hasan may have been mentally unbalanced — I assume anyone who shoots up innocent people is. But the more you read about his support for Muslim suicide bombers, about how he showed up at a public-health seminar with a PowerPoint presentation titled “Why the War on Terror Is a War on Islam,” and about his contacts with Anwar al-Awlaki, a Yemeni cleric famous for using the Web to support jihadist violence against America — the more it seems that Major Hasan was just another angry jihadist spurred to action by “The Narrative.”

What is scary is that even though he was born, raised and educated in America, The Narrative still got to him.

The Narrative is the cocktail of half-truths, propaganda and outright lies about America that have taken hold in the Arab-Muslim world since 9/11. Propagated by jihadist Web sites, mosque preachers, Arab intellectuals, satellite news stations and books — and tacitly endorsed by some Arab regimes — this narrative posits that America has declared war on Islam, as part of a grand “American-Crusader-Zionist conspiracy” to keep Muslims down.

Yes, after two decades in which U.S. foreign policy has been largely dedicated to rescuing Muslims or trying to help free them from tyranny — in Bosnia, Darfur, Kuwait, Somalia, Lebanon, Kurdistan, post-earthquake Pakistan, post-tsunami Indonesia, Iraq and Afghanistan — a narrative that says America is dedicated to keeping Muslims down is thriving.

Although most of the Muslims being killed today are being killed by jihadist suicide bombers in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan and Indonesia, you’d never know it from listening to their world. The dominant narrative there is that 9/11 was a kind of fraud: America’s unprovoked onslaught on Islam is the real story, and the Muslims are the real victims — of U.S. perfidy.

Have no doubt: we punched a fist into the Arab/Muslim world after 9/11, partly to send a message of deterrence, but primarily to destroy two tyrannical regimes — the Taliban and the Baathists — and to work with Afghans and Iraqis to build a different kind of politics. In the process, we did some stupid and bad things. But for every Abu Ghraib, our soldiers and diplomats perpetrated a million acts of kindness aimed at giving Arabs and Muslims a better chance to succeed with modernity and to elect their own leaders.

The Narrative was concocted by jihadists to obscure that.

It’s working. As a Jordanian-born counterterrorism expert, who asked to remain anonymous, said to me: “This narrative is now omnipresent in Arab and Muslim communities in the region and in migrant communities around the world. These communities are bombarded with this narrative in huge doses and on a daily basis. [It says] the West, and right now mostly the U.S. and Israel, is single-handedly and completely responsible for all the grievances of the Arab and the Muslim worlds. Ironically, the vast majority of the media outlets targeting these communities are Arab-government owned — mostly from the Gulf.”

This narrative suits Arab governments. It allows them to deflect onto America all of their people’s grievances over why their countries are falling behind. And it suits Al Qaeda, which doesn’t need much organization anymore — just push out The Narrative over the Web and satellite TV, let it heat up humiliated, frustrated or socially alienated Muslim males, and one or two will open fire on their own. See: Major Hasan.

“Liberal Arabs like me are as angry as a terrorist and as determined to change the status quo,” said my Jordanian friend. The only difference “is that while we choose education, knowledge and success to bring about change, a terrorist, having bought into the narrative, has a sense of powerlessness and helplessness, which are inculcated in us from childhood, that lead him to believe that there is only one way, and that is violence.”

What to do? Many Arab Muslims know that what ails their societies is more than the West, and that The Narrative is just an escape from looking honestly at themselves. But none of their leaders dare or care to open that discussion. In his Cairo speech last June, President Obama effectively built a connection with the Muslim mainstream. Maybe he could spark the debate by asking that same audience this question:

“Whenever something like Fort Hood happens you say, ‘This is not Islam.’ I believe that. But you keep telling us what Islam isn’t. You need to tell us what it is and show us how its positive interpretations are being promoted in your schools and mosques. If this is not Islam, then why is it that a million Muslims will pour into the streets to protest Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, but not one will take to the streets to protest Muslim suicide bombers who blow up other Muslims, real people, created in the image of God? You need to explain that to us — and to yourselves.”

ha ha
by Israeli spooks & Mossad Shooters Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Just tell us what happened to the other two detained shooters...
Or why Hasan was sheltered, tolerated and promoted while he ranted and made a big noticeable extremest Muslim patsy.
Israeli propaganda spooks and witless sloganeering just wont do...

Like its predecessor Nazism before it, it is the belief that control of a particular piece of real estate should be determined on the basis of lineage. That's racist by definition. Ergo, anyone who supports Palestine's existence is a racist.

how about just producing the two mossad technicians who fired over 100 rounds and we'll call it even. huh, spooks?

again notice the vacuous counter, a keystroke of repetitious noise without content.
Of course it's off topic.
Where are the other two mossad technicians who did all the killing?
The ones which were detained at the early reports.

just turn over the two shooters you have stashed away somewhere...
you know, the ones which disappeared.
The ones who were able to fire 100 or so rounds at the reception center and the theater.

yada'bot
by just turn over the mossad shooters Monday, Nov. 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM

turn over the other two shooters.
the ones you can't let anyone know about. In a safe hose or body bag, it doesn't matter. Turn them over.

where are they?
by where are the two mossad shooters Monday, Nov. 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM

all you have to do is turn them over.
Then you don't have to deal with the other questions in this black operation.
And posting the same thing verbatim, over and over again is only making you look more guilty.

After all he was reported dead, and came back to life. Only Mossad can do it. And only Israel benefits from 4 dead police officiers in a small town in Washington. C
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just turn them over...
by we need to question the two mossad shooters Tuesday, Dec. 01, 2009 at 7:20 AM

that would be nice.
Before they're returned to Israel to be celebrated like the 5 Dancing Israelis did on 9-11 to give TV interviews in Israel, on how they were there to "record the event"

After all he was reported dead, and came back to life. Only Mossad can do it. And only Israel benefits from 4 dead police officiers in a small town in Washington

Israel, by the way is also responsible for global climate change.

Just ask that Palestinian behind the curtain

noise is only noise.
We want to ask a few questions.
Ones that lead to the CIA & mossad.

We want to question the two individuals which fired off 100 or so rounds and were detained by the post security. Were they allowed to escape to Ramallah? Why? Why would an American, born and raised in Virginia, claim to be "Palestinian" ? Were other Plaestinians involved?

Just have the Big Oil producers reveal these individuals who killed on American soil. Big Oil fund palestinian terror, abroad and now in MAerica

As hard as you try, you can't bury the truth.

As the horror of the Fort Hood bloodbath was unfolding on American television sets, my first thought was, “Was it a Muslim?” If it makes anyone feel better, then call me an Islamaphobe. As it turns out, my first instinct was correct. If most people were honest with themselves, it was also their first thought.

Bits and pieces of information began to dribble out about Nidal Malik Hasan. Incorrect information flew in every direction. Such as: It must have been post-traumatic shock syndrome from his time in the war zone. No, he was never there. Well, then it must have been from hearing the horror stories of men who WERE in the war zone.

A family member swore that Hasan loved America but he had been “picked on” after 9/11 for being Muslim. Let’s all feel guilty that as he was enjoying the career paid for by the American taxpayer, as was his medical education, he heard a few harsh words after members of his religion attacked the country. But fat kids are picked on all the time and they don’t kill people.

Medical professionals have been paraded before the cameras giving their slant of why this man did what he did. Fear of going into a war zone was a popular excuse. ''He must have had some underlying mental instability that started years ago and he just snapped.”

Actually, the latter is closer to the truth than they realize. He was suffering from a long-standing mental instability- -and it is called Islam.

Americans must realize that Muslim children, especially the boys, are taught from birth that Islam must dominate the world. If someone refuses to convert to Islam, it is justified to kill or enslave them. The mere fact that someone doesn’t believe in Islam is reason to wage war on the unbeliever. Most American Muslims are taught that Islam comes first. Muslims have no country; they have only Islam. Nidal Malik Hasan eventually fell into the same camp as Bin Laden, only on a smaller scale.

The “prime directive” of Islam put Hasan in an impossible situation and mentally, he could not deal with it. In the end, Islam won.

Americans need to stop and think about the events of the last few days. One Muslim caused absolute panic and pandemonium. Thirteen good and true Americans lost their lives and over thirty people were wounded in the span of three minutes at the hands of only one Muslim with two handguns.

As most people were dumbstruck, make no mistake, Muslims all over the world were laughing. Look at what just one Islamic warrior can do to the great America. How weak Americans must be. Look at them crying and running in fear. What an easy target America has become--again. Listen to them making excuses for Hasan so as not to offend Islam while ignoring the obvious. Hasan will now join the ranks of Islamic heroes.

Hasan knew his career in the American military was in direct conflict with the teachings of Islam. The American military is not about assuring that Islam will dominate the world, it is about stopping Islam from dominating the world.

Imam Mohammed Abdullahi told the world that Islam was not responsible for Hasan. "Islam doesn't command anybody to do something like that," said Shaikh Khamis. I beg to differ. The Qur’an is full of commands to do exactly what Hasan did. Islam is absolutely responsible for what Hasan did.

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth…"

Qur'an (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

There should be no doubt that Hasan did not expect to survive the attack. He shouted the obligatory “Allahu Akbar!” as he killed. He had given away all his worldly goods. Hasan fully expected to be relaxing with a bunch of virgins that Allah would gratefully provide to him for his great and brave act of gunning down unarmed Americans and causing near hysteria on the largest military base in the heart of America. He killed in the name of Allah and Islam.

One of the most interesting aspects of this Muslim named Nidal Malik Hasan was his comparison of Muslim suicide bombers to American soldiers who had thrown themselves on grenades to save their fellow soldiers. Hason believed that all those brave Muslim martyr-bombers were doing was killing American soldiers to save their fellow Muslims.

In the twisted minds of many Muslims, the simple statistic that their “heroic” suicide bombers rarely target the enemy but instead kill fellow Muslims escapes them. Bombers have attacked Muslim weddings, ice cream shops jammed with Muslim children, playgrounds, and busy markets teaming with Muslim shoppers. They have killed fellow Muslims on their way to Muslim shrines to pray. Suicide bombers have also killed innocent civilians on trains, buses, and subways all over the world. But, remember, Islam teaches that in war, there is no such thing as a “civilian.”

Did Hasan forget about the Muslim woman, who, on her husband’s orders, sat with the Muslim women, small children, and babies at a Muslim wedding in Egypt and tried to detonate the bomb she was wearing? Fortunately, it malfunctioned and while her husband blew the wedding party to bits, at least the children were spared. The woman had little remorse. She just did what her husband and Islam told her to do. There was not a single American soldier near that wedding.

While many search for some complicated, psychological answer to the question, “Why did he do it?” the answer is really very simple. Islamic teaching instructed him to do it. How could he compare American soldiers to suicide bombers? That too is easy, he just refused to believe that Muslims slaughter fellow Muslims every day. After all, Islam forbids such things so it must all be a lie. A true Muslim never lets the facts get in the way.

A spokesman for CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) was quick to get his face on television condemning the murders. Don’t believe him, not for a second. Understand this: It is mandatory for Muslims to lie to the enemy. Lying to infidels is expected and sanctioned. He said what was expected of him and nothing more. He “calmed the masses” back into believing this was the solitary act of a madman. It was not the act of a madman, but a devote Muslim carrying out the teachings of Islam. After all, one of CAIR’s mission statements is to replace the Constitution with the Qu’ran. Can that be accomplished without violence? Unlikely.

Ponder this fact: There are approximately six million Muslims in America. If just one half of one percent of them decide to act as Hasan did, that is 30,000 Muslims going on a one-man rampage. If they are as successful as Hasan was and manage to kill 13 Americans, that is a staggering 390,000 dead Americans. Hasan was not the first and he will not be the last Muslim to kill Americans right here on American soil.

One also must ask, why was this man even allowed to remain in the military after his outlandish anti-American comments? Was this not ''conduct unbecoming of an officer''? Was it because no one wanted to be accused of being anti-Muslim? Was it that no one wanted to be accused of “picking” on Hasan the Muslim? Are there “hands-off” orders in the military concerning Muslims? This man waved so many red flags that a blind man could have felt the breeze, yet, though he was being “observed,” he was not stopped. Now, thirteen good Americans are dead.

One person stated that Hasan told him that he was a Muslim first and an American second. Hasan was born and raised here in America yet the pull of Islam was so strong that he was willing to kill for Islam and to die for Islam. How many more Hasans are out there, waiting for their chance to become martyrs for Islam?

I once made the statement that there is a terrorist inside every Muslim, planted there at birth by Islam. It’s just a matter of which is stronger, their true instinct of what is right and wrong, or the teachings of Islam. Millions upon millions of Muslims know that murder in the name of Islam is wrong and will not do it. But there are many that will, and it only takes a few to cause havoc and death on a massive scale. The problem isn’t Muslims, the problem is the violent teachings of Islam and those who follow those violent commands

this is fun! bumping this Black Ops to the top of the comments page with each attempt to cover the questions with noise.
Where are the two detained shooters reported to have been apprehended?

Are you saying two Israeli Arabs helped Hasan?
I hadn't heard that, but the Israeli Arabs have proven to be a 5th column in Israel, so its not surprising that Palestininian Arabs would be a fifth colum in this country.

And thank you for giving Barbara's article more visibility- the more comments on this thread, the higher Google ranks her.

How did one shooter in Seattle manage to kill 4 police officiers in bullet proof vests, each heavily armed?

Why was it initially reported that Maurice Clemmons was hit, and killed?
It was eventually disproved.

Does that mean it was a Mossad plot?
Of course, to you, everything is a Mossad plot.

No, it means shoddy reporting.

What happened:

As if going off to war, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan cleaned out his apartment, gave leftover frozen broccoli to one neighbor and called another to thank him for his friendship — common courtesies and routines of the departing soldier. Instead, authorities say, he went on the killing spree that left 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, dead.

Investigators were trying to piece together how and why Hasan allegedly gunned down his comrades in the worst case of violence on a military base in the U.S. The rampage unfolded at a center where some 300 unarmed soldiers were lined up for vaccines and eye tests.

Soldiers reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire Thursday, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander.

His w2eapon

Records indicate Hasan bought the FN 5.7 at store called "Guns Galore" in Killeen, Texas, in recent months and that gun was used in the attack that left 13 people dead, one of the officials said. The pistol has been dubbed a "cop killer" by those who have tried to stop its use.

The gun, made of lightweight polymer, can handle magazines with 20 or 30 rounds. It is a controversial weapon among gun control advocates because it can penetrate body armor when used with more powerful, but restricted, ammunition employed by law enforcement and the military.

So he managed to change magazines 3 times in 16 minutes. Why is that so hard to believe?

come on, spooks, at least come up with some sort of accounting for two shootings one at the theatre and one at the reception center. This is getting better by the minute..

uh, these reports were from the post commander.
you don't 'miss-report to your superior command chain.
No one has been grilled on how this individual was sheltered by his upper command chains after his public outrageous behavior. The memory hole of a final version of this narrative is very similar to the JFK hit as you are ignoring the first reports not tailored to suit the propaganda theme.
Otherwise, rising from the dead after firing 100 rounds at two different places is kinda hard to accept. But I'm sure you'll try to either avoid the questions or come up with some other supergun or super something.

off topic evasions? ater a hundred rounds and 100 attempts asking some very specific questions, non of which can be answered.
Unless you conciser this another black operation. For the obvious reasons to bad jacket the usual enemy by the usual Israeli suspects.
Visit Israel!

Asked and answered. Each magazine holds 30 rounds- the shooting took place in 16 minutes - 3 magazines.

Easy enough to understand for someone with intelligence, so I understand why its a struggle for you

Having discussed the inept reaction of government to the massacre carried out by Islamic radical Nidal Malik Hasan, we now compile insightful commentary on the response of American Muslims and those who claim to represent them:

PC-Free Thoughts on the Muslim Response to Fort Hood

Having discussed the inept reaction of government to the massacre carried out by Islamic radical Nidal Malik Hasan, we now compile insightful commentary on the response of American Muslims and those who claim to represent them:

Steven Emerson of the Investigative Project notes how some Muslims can become more Muslim than others, depending on whether Islamist pressure groups are able to paint them as victims. Exhibit A: the contrasting approaches to the Fort Hood rampage and the death one week earlier of Luqman Ameen Abdullah, a radical imam killed in a shootout with the FBI. Asked about the meme that "Luqman was shot because he was Muslim, but right now religion has nothing to do with Hasan," Emerson replies that "the Council on American-Islamic Relations wants to play the victimology argument … So when it suits their purpose, they will identify the [purported victim] as Islamic as in the Luqman case … but when it comes to the perpetrator [e.g., Hasan], then of course he has no religion."

Counterterrorism researcher Patrick Poole dismantles Islamist logic that addressing the jihadist threat, whether inside the military or elsewhere, is somehow an affront to all Muslims: "To say that you can't target jihadist ideology without targeting the whole of Islam is an acknowledgment on their part that the two are inseparable — a point I doubt they are ready to concede. Regardless, they can't have it both ways: either jihadist ideology has nothing to do with Islam, as Islamic groups constantly represent, and thus it can be addressed without infringing on their freedom of religion; or they must admit, along with the 'Islamophobes,' that jihadist ideology and the violence it promotes are part and parcel with Islam. The question for these critics is unavoidable: which is it?"

Philadelphia Daily News columnist Stu Bykofsky drives home the theme of Muslims needing to banish the radicals in their midst: "If Islam, as we hear, has been hijacked by extremists, the logical people to rescue it are Muslims themselves. Muslims in the West, starting in America, have to stand up for democracy and be noisy about it. … We've seen mass rallies — in the West! — of Muslims denouncing democracy. Where are the pro-democracy Muslim rallies?" Echoing calls for a "Million Muslim March," Bykofsky throws down the gauntlet: "If a loyal American Muslim asks, 'Why should I have to do this?' my answer is easy: You don't have to. You should want to."

Zuhdi Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, speaks for Muslims who recognize the urgency of reclaiming their faith from the fanatics. He argues that in Hasan's bloodbath and recent plots, "the common thread is political Islam," an "ideology that brings Muslims down a slippery slope." In Jasser's view, "Muslims that look at this problem as merely a PR problem are living on another planet." It is time to see adherents of Islam "stepping up to take responsibility and trying to fix the problem."

Jasser's colleague Sid Shahid, addressing all who demand that Islam and Muslims be treated with kid gloves, gets the final word: "Enough of this sort of political correctness."

yup again
by Israeli spooks and Ft. Hood Wednesday, Dec. 09, 2009 at 3:10 PM

again I'll state the obvious since will still have Israeli agents from the ministry of flummery...
two different locations
Two other vanished shooters
patsy rises from the dead
patsy allowed to make field grade officer while also portraying himself as a radical Muslim. No sanctions upon the upper command chains despite the sheltering and special attention for six months yet no action taken.
And a frantic attempt to cover these items with noise or but shots of Yada's family.