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180 Phoenix police, fire officials earn more than $100,000 each
by Over paid cop
Friday, Jan. 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM
Where do most of your city taxes go? To pay for the police state! 87 police sergeants make more than $99,000 [that is over $50 and hour and does not include vacation and sick-leave buyout, take-home vehicle allowances]
Where do most of your city taxes go? To pay for the police state!
180 Phoenix police, fire officials earn more than $100,000 each
more than 90 percent of police operating budgets [costs] go to personnel [sarlaries]
87 police sergeants make more than $99,000 [that is over $50 and hour and does not include vacation and sick-leave buyout, take-home vehicle allowances]
Last but least remember these highly paid cops spend most of their time arresting people for victimless drug war crimes! Two thirds of the people in prison are there for victimless drug war crimes.
180 Phoenix police, fire officials earn more than $100,000 each
As the top police officer in the city, Jack Harris and his firefighting cohort Bob Khan oversee more than 6,000 staffers assigned to the giant public-safety machines responsible for fighting crime and providing emergency services.
The two highest-paid public-safety officials in the city are among 180 police and fire staffers paid more than $100,000 each, according to salary information provided to The Republic.
With more than 90 percent of both police- and fire-operating budgets going to personnel and the fact that cuts may have to be made both this fiscal year and next, the chiefs said they could be forced to operate with fewer top-level commanders.
The Police Department does not plan to fill the positions of four commanders scheduled to retire by May. Another commander and assistant chief are up for the Mesa police chief's position, and either position might not be filled if either candidate is selected for the Mesa post, officials said.
Harris said police salaries are mostly negotiated through contracts and labor-management relationships. Changing the formulas of how everyone from police officers to commanders receives pay raises is difficult, but he said his executive staff earns its pay as part of one of the most nationally recognized police departments in the country.
"The community should be proud (city leaders) are compensating their leadership fairly and getting that bang for their buck," Harris said.
In addition, 87 police sergeants make base salaries of more than $99,000. Vacation and sick-leave buyout, take-home vehicle allowances and other benefits are not factored into base pay.
Both the police and fire agencies could be forced to lay off first-responders in the event Phoenix requires its public-safety agencies to cut 10 percent or more of their budgets, officials said. The challenge is making cuts while maintaining staffing at an effective level and without adversely affecting response times or emergency services.
"That's where the money is - salary and benefits," Khan said. "It almost leaves you nowhere to go but with personnel to make that work."
math that may be missing
by grr67
Monday, Jan. 18, 2010 at 1:52 AM
As there are some valid points to wanting to make sure our tax dollars are not being wasted by bureaucrats sitting at desks (and spending it on say "eneny tracking and filing centers" like certain sheriffs) this article maybe missing points a little. A cop or firefighter that makes it into command has put in likely many years of service. It is a career for them, and likely at least at first their heart was in the right place.
I decided to do a little math to figure out pay rate increases.
Say we start out with an officer at age 24. Now I don't know what is the starting salary but let's say it's just 32,000 a year. Break it down to 40 hour work weeks and its a little over $15 per hour. Now you would say that it is fair to give that officer a raise at least each year of service right, so how about a dollar. So now at that rate let's say the officer says in service for 25 years. Over half his life has now been working for the people, he is making 83,000+ a year but has likely put in more than 40 hours a week for a long time. A few more years or a big promotion and yeah they are making over a 100K. In this way we are paying for experience.
That is how you get to making over 99,000 in a fair way. The system's not fair all around but it's not all bad either.
grr67 math is way off!
by Double dipping pig!
Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM
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The starting pay for Phoenix Police now is $50,000 or about $25 an hour.
That is before over time. That's almost double the $32,000 or $15/hr grr67
estimated
Grr67 says a cop will stay in service for 25 years.
That is a gross overestimate.
Cops can retire after 10 years and collect 80 percent
of their highest wage as retirement pay. Pretty damn
good.
Why work for 25 years when you can retire after 10
years and collect 80% of your pay by sitting around
and doing nothing.
And if your a double dipper you can DOUBLE your pay.
Of course most cops after they retire in 10 years
will continue working for the city of Phoenix but
they will be double dippers.
After a cop retires he will get a job as a zoning
inspector or some other cop type cop type job.
So
now he is collecting the normal pay from a zoning
inspector job and 80% of his highest pay as a cop.
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